The Greek Fathers taught the Filioque

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In this video, I show that St. Cyril, St. Epiphanius, St. Gregory of Nyssa, St. Athanasius, and St. Basil taught the Filioque.

00:00 Introduction
00:37 Catholic & Orthodox Dogmas
03:29 St. Cyril
15:50 Theodoret 171
18:33 St. Epiphanius
26:42 St. Gregory of Nyssa
44:04 St. Athanasius
52:06 St. Basil
55:00 Summary

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00:00 Introduction
00:37 Catholic & Orthodox Dogmas
03:29 St. Cyril
15:50 Theodoret 171
18:33 St. Epiphanius
26:42 St. Gregory of Nyssa
44:04 St. Athanasius
52:06 St. Basil
55:00 Summary

Correction at 31:59 I meant the property that distinguishes the Spirit from the Son.

Correction: At 3:55 a more exact translation would be “of the essence of the Son.” However, the point still stands because in the latter quotes he also uses the formula from the essence of the Son. So it makes no substantial difference to our argumentation.

Correction: At 10:38 I accidentally combined two separate quotes into one.


dwong
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The witness of St. Epiphanius is especially powerful because, although Constantinople +381 is credited with the "second half" of the Nicene creed, it first shows up in the historical record about a decade prior in the writings of St. Epiphanius. Since Epiphanius clearly believed in the Filioque, we know with certainty that the "original" formula of the creed, "the Holy Spirit... who proceeds from the Father, " wasn't intended to deny a procession "from the Son" also. In fact, Epiphanius wrote another version of that creed which says that the Spirit "proceeds from the Father and receives from the Son." There is a reason why the Latins believed the Greeks removed the Filioque from the creed, and vice versa: the history of the creed is more complex than either side realized. See Philip Schaff, Creeds of Christendom, Vol. II, "Two Creeds of Epiphanius. A.D. 374."

benjaminjohn
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Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception, pray for us.

dominicluke
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Whoa. Such a clear and precise presentation! God bless the only divinely authoritative Catholic Church!

HellenicPapist
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I know I’ve commented on your work before, but I just wanted to thank you again because your work on this issue has single-handedly eased some of the worst anxiety I’ve ever felt.

ScroopGroop
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Thank you for making this entire series. I began my exit out of protestantism about a year ago and was heavily pulled towards Orthodoxy before I came across these videos. No EO I ever bring these quotes up to can ever substantively respond, just hand-wave or angrily assert they're forgeries. I think it's only a matter of time before I convert to Catholicism.

andrewdoesapologetics
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A stickman called dwong gives me a detailed lecture on the Eastern Church Fathers' view on the Filioque. The internet is a perplexing place.

r_in_space
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Yep, these Fathers are also why Ecumenical Patriarch John Bekkos, realized the differences between Eastern and Western Churches were exaggerated and wanted to mend the Schism. To which he was persecuted for it.

Cklert
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Amazing video, St. Cyril, St. Athanasius, and St. Basil along with their defenders and interpreters John Bekkos and Nikephoros Blemmydes pray for us.

UnionistInitiative
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The Memoirs of Silvester Syropoulos reveal that Mark of Ephesus called the Council of Florence "ecumenical"; George Scholarios suggested a compromise text saying that the Holy Spirit gushes forth (anabluzei) or fountains forth from the Son.

johncollorafi
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This video is not only excellent, it's important. It ought to be shared widely.

lazaruscomeforth
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Another banger. You should do one on the Papacy.

neibo
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Thank you for posting. Thanks to you I could realize the beauty and truthfulness of our One Holy, Apostolic and Catholic Church. Please don’t stop ❤🙏

antoni
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I was confirmed this past Easter Vigil and your videos def helped contribute to my choosing between both churches. 🇻🇦💗

maya.warren
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Love this, you are doing God's work defending the faith! Have you considered doing a video addressing polemics against thomism?

Dwooswa
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At the 31:45 mark (in the "St. Gregory of Nyssa" chapter), I think you meant to type "Son" instead of "Spirit" as the last word in the green highlighted phrase.

With that said, this was an excellent video. I am continually amazed by the rigour of your research and the clarity of your arguments. I look forward to your upcoming book which I am sure will be as inspired as all your online content.

ryanfy
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I was just hoping you had new content and this pops up.

kais.
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2:50, 55:01-51:23, Congratulations on refuting Eastern Orthodoxy.

Since dogma in the Roman Catholic understanding are divine truths revealed by God himself (the Filioque is dogma in Roman Catholicism and God cannot deceive anyone Numbers 23:19), either the Roman Catholic Church is correct and the EO Church is false or vice versa.

This video clearly proves that the Roman Catholic Church’s position on the procession of the Holy Spirit is the true position and the true faith. To deny an infallible dogma of the Roman Catholic Church such as the Filioque is to call God a liar, telling Him that what He revealed to us in his Church is not true.

Not only can God not deceive anyone, but in addition, the Roman Catholic Council of Lyon in 1274 already declared the Filioque to be dogma, so if God revealed the Filioque dogma and was present in the Roman Catholic Church in 1274, it is impossible that God simultaneously revealed the contradictory single procession as divinely revealed truth in the Eastern Orthodox Church at the Council at Blachernae in 1285 (debunking any claim that the EO is actually the true Catholic Church.)

No Eastern Orthodox apologist will be able to refute this video and it’s not necessarily relevant that their apologists bring up other arguments such as the Papacy, because as you mentioned, the Council of Blachernae (and the Eastern Orthodox Church in 2016 officially stated that it is guided by the Holy Spirit in its councils and later councils after the schism with Rome) claim that God spoke in their Church by dogmatizing the single procession, thus falsifying their own Church and proving the EO is not the true Catholic Church, the Pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim 3:15.

Pope Pius X, Lamentabile, The Errors of the Modernists, July 3, 1907, #22: “The dogmas which the (Roman Catholic) Church professes as revealed are not truths fallen from Heaven, but they are a kind of interpretation of religious facts, which the human mind by a laborious effort prepared for itself - Condemned.”

Pope Leo XIII, TAMETSI FUTURA PROSPICIENTIBUS para #9 - “To reject dogma is simply to deny Christianity.”

wingedhussar
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Really appreciate this video..Very insightful.

dynamic
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Pachamama, quote mining, Francis... Debunked... I am very intelligent...

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