The Golden Ratio is bullsh*t

The Golden Ratio seems to be one of those ideas that, for some reason, lodges itself in the minds of both professionals and the general public and keeps on fascinating them for decades.

Here's my two cents on the topic and why I believe the Gold Ration is actually nothing more than a myth with no scientific or logical backing.

→Links and references:
Netflix Clips: Abstract The Art of Design - Season 1 Episode 5 (Paula Scher)
Abstract The Art of Design - Season 2 Episode 6 (Jonathan Hoefler)

[Kusemees]

this video has more likes than r/goldenratio has members, meaning that thomas has offically ratiod the golden ratio

[alma_h]

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[dynamic_spy]

well, the golden ratio doesn't necessarily have much of anything to do with art, but the golden ratio is very much a real thing in nature, because it is the most efficient way to evenly distribute things in limited space

[rewrite]

You dare say bullsh*t to Gyro's teachings?
-crippled jockey

[PASHKULI]

The Golden ratio is not bullsh¡t.
People pretending to "design" logos and overlap it on personal favourite things is bullsh¡t.

[totallynotdio]

jojo fans: you've just made an enemy for life

[StephenwithaPH]

Gyro Zeppeli had never seen such bullshit before

[finaltheorygames]

The thing is that you can take any art piece and just force a golden ratio within it somewhere.

[CanadianPrepper]

When used in artifacts its overstated but it's evident in nature so the only thing that's BS is artists claiming their work uses it, so somewhat misleading.

[brothertaylor]

The problem is that he's taking into account fractions and their denominators but he's forgetting that the primary variable of a golden ratio is it's frequency.

[stalker-monolitovec]

Gyro and Johnny: That's sad, but understandable.

[j.hateshisjob]

I feel like this video's general assertion that the Golden Ratio is "bullshit" is too vague to really be meaningful at all. Maybe in the sense of whether a certain piece of art is esthetically pleasing, sure that makes sense, after all the appeal of art is subjective. What is interesting and more important about the golden ratio is its mathematic and geometric relationship with the Fibonacci sequence as well as nature, celestial bodies, etc.

By saying the ratio is simply "bullshit" gives the impression that the ratio is in fact not prevalent in nature or worthy of any real note which is just untrue.

[SangsakaCreative]

Golden ratio is a part of nature, even your body length proportion have it, at the beginning this concept is beeing used to create the architectural design, painting arts, or even statue looks as natural as possible. That natural perception shaped because we as human see a lot of that kind of proportion since the day we birth.

In modern day, this concept is not that practical anymore, since a good design should be "Form Follow Function." the functionality is improving so much during modern day, hence we need more dynamic design concept rather than a conventional golden ratio.

But that doesn't mean the golden ratio is bullshit, it's like a stairs in a modern hotel, using lift is always more efficient and the easiest way to go, but in case of emergency, you need to get back to basic.

[KAZVorpal]

Without asserting whether or not it's actually true, here are the rationale behind the Golden Ratio being more pleasing:
1. The golden ratio and Fibonacci sequence both do show up in nature, for the perfectly mundane reason that things build up progressively when growing. The size of the nautilus shell naturally increases in proportion to its existing size, as does the accumulation of actual flowers inside a sunflower (which is not a flower, but a bank of tiny flowers with yellow leaves surrounding it).
2. Therefore the ratio/sequence will show up a lot in nature, and it can be advantageous to perceive it. This can help differentiate between something beneficial and something similar-looking that is not. To tell whether the thing a fish is about to attack is an actual nautilus, or some debris.
3. Therefore recognizing it, albeit a small benefit, may have enough to build up over the course of three billion years.

Bonus factor: Accumulating factors occur even in our own brains. So aside from evolutionary advantage, we may have a recognition of the ratio/sequence in our own minds, just incidentally.

[vjollila]

Zeppeli family wants to know your location

[mikel]

Raised on a farm, I know for a fact that bull (or cow, hen, rooster, etc.) shit has nothing to do with mathematics other than the number of wheelbarrow loads it takes to fertilize a garden. The Golden Ratio (or Mean) is based purely on math. So, I'm calling bullshit on this video.

[mr.quilava]

Gyro be like: Someone's going to die tonight

[DK-fnxr]

Start with a random rectangle with sides a(0) > b(0) in any ratio, not necessarily golden ratio. Then, continue building smaller rectangles according to the recursion that makes the golden spiral
a(n+1) = b(n), b(n + 1) = a(n) - b(n).
The ratio of sides follows a recursion
r(n+1) = a(n+1)/b(n+1) = 1/(r(n) - 1),
with a fixed points
r*(r - 1) = 1 => r = (1 +/- sqrt(5))/2
The positive ratio is the golden ratio phi and one can show it is a stable fixed point. So, the rectangles you obtain by this procedure quicky converge to the shape of the golden ratio.

You can reverse the procedure and make larger rectangles
a(n + 1) = a(n) + b(n), b(n + 1) = a(n)
With the ratio satisfying
r(n+1) = 1 + 1/r(n)
and fixed points
r^2 - r - 1 = 0 => r = (1 +/- sqrt(5))/2
Again, the stable fixed point is the golden ratio phi = (1 + sqrt(5))/2.

In this regard, the golden rectangle is a stable shape.

[DannyLeeOGT]

Bullshit is in FACT A great representation of the golden ratio as it is a spiral. It is a part of nature and it does, in fact, fit the equation. And if you take the golden ratio out of the title of this video, then the title is perfect.

[chukwudimbah]

Creates some sort of balance in design, it's naturally pleasing in composition. Other things are involved too in design...but the golden ratio isn't complete bull. But nevertheless your opinion is respected