This CONCERT PIANIST SOLVED GOLF? 'Audio Golf' Professor Chia Chou a BETTER WAY of playing #golf

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Branden, when you ask a question, ask the question ONLY. Don't guess at what the guest will say. Just ask the question. Your suppositions don't really help the listener understand the issue better. In fact they can lead us down the wrong path. Learn to just ask good questions. If their answer needs clarification, then you can ask further questions without, again, guessing at what their answer might be. The world's best interviewers do it this way. Nevertheless, thanks for your fabulous content.

MUTiger
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Attended 2 clinics in Florida with JJ and Chia. Outstanding experience. I went for distance control, particularly with putting, and that worked as advertised. What I didn’t expect was the increase in sweet spot consistency with all clubs (including putter for some reason). My wedges currently have a dime size grass stain on the face. Never had that before. I’m very mechanical and I’ve never been a believer in tempo, but man it does seem like it may be the key to consistency.

TheFreakFormula
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Sam Snead. Listened to a waltz or two prior to a round. What’s old is new. Fascinating. Thank you B!

rangetime
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This is fascinating. I wish their training was more accessible.

chrisyoder
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So this is where Dr Kwon’s “Vijaaayyy Singh” comes from

ltLX
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Putting distance control makes a lot of sense. Swing tempo seems possible. A mantra that prevents someone from leaving the face open or some other minute physical mistake seems less likely.

kylemcclure
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Bobby Jones swung his club to a song called Lime House Sneads tempo and rhythm was based on the Waltz.

TOYNOT
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I saw this concept months ago and thought I would give Ya-La-Bam a try. It is exactly as advertised. You can't have all sorts of extraneous thoughts if you concentrate on Ya-La-Bam. I don't have the putting yips and my lagging the ball is excellent. But I did this and my putting got even better. Don't overthink this BD. But the golf swing is all about tempo so this makes sense. Try it and it works (at least on 12'-15' putts). I would love to go a seminar on this. Get these guys out to California (or even better, Hawaii!).

robertberardy
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I've been using a similar approach, in the opposite direction, for years as a voice teacher. For example, to get someone to sing a long note correctly, I'll have them sing the note while continuously stretching a light gauge resistance band. At first, almost every voice student makes the same mistake - they think about their singing and not the band. As soon as they get to that long note, they freeze up and instantly stop stretching the band. However, once I get them to think about the band, instead, they succeed in stretching the band continuously and their singing adjusts to the desired result.
Using a similar mechanism ("mirroring"), I taught myself to throw left-handed. Previously, when I would try to throw left-handed, alone, it was a mess (I frequently hit my shoes😳). I remembered from conducting choruses that my left hand, if I didn't have a specific task for it, would just mirror my right, exactly. When I applied this to throwing, I was able (after some work) to throw left-handed.

I think it's an approach that works best with people who are new to using it and for experienced people rediscovering it. In between, people get better at performing the task and become more capable of separating them (very few people have the sense to not mess with it). Overall, it's a hugely useful approach. It uses external stimuli, it's non-verbal...it's good stuff.

mikeobrien
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Vijay Singh discovered this back in a 2004/2005 clinic with Rocco Mediate. down)" or Vijay(back) Singh(down). I wonder where that video sits in the TGC archives.

I love these guys....very cool.

LeeTrevinoFans
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I am wondering if one could come up with their own sounds? When he gave the example for the drop shot in tennis, I made this sound in my head before he gave us his sound. It was surprisingly close to his sound.

ThinkingMan
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Sure, a phrase repeated in your head is no different in the way it helps timing than estimating the length of a second by saying “One one thousand”, “Two one thousand” in your head. Many years ago putting coach Geoff Mangum told students to say “One Po-ta-to” to develop rhythm.
But what everyone is missing here, and where the charlatan component comes in to play, is that it’s not so much the ‘phrase’ as it is the quieting of the mind in that moment because it has to focus on the rhythm of the phrase - and Chia Chou admits this around 28:07 / 28:44 / 35:44. He rightly attaches at 39:19 to “just let go” to these admissions. And 40:08 he critically sums it all up and gets to the heart of the matter. So just make up your own matching phrases (lines from favorite songs etc.) if you need this crutch but my distance control came online when I started accepting the line, motion and planned execution without a-n-y judgement or second guessing. ‘If' you are in the ‘zone’ you are committed and don’t need this audio hack. You achieve ‘zone’ by absolute trust (and with putting - absolute comfort). You will also be in the moment and not 'in the phrase' - something more desirable. Develop that and you can say “Scooby Doo” over a putt and they will drop.

zornob
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They’ve been doing this in traditional martial arts for a long time.

waterflowzz
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We have officially entered golf woo woo

wgsmit
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I wonder how many sounds would be needed to play golf? One for wedges every 10 yards would be nice. 10-20 for putting and chipping distances? Hopefully 10 or less for full shots. I can just imagine Bryson needing 300 sounds for putting in 2" increments. 🙂
Hopefully a person could learn the concept and be able to build a vocabulary themselves...needing to personally visit a music motion savant is not a practical shortcut for very many golfers.
I think distance your brain does well visually...spend 80% of time looking at the hole and trust it for putts. Most people can toss a ball to someone 5-30' pretty well...better if not thinking about it.
I am all ears 👂👂👂 if there are sounds for driver and partial wedges that work.

na
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Like the beginning of the Moody Blues Procession...Ahhum, Ahjum, etc...

Roberto-bdfq
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I find these tempos useful for short game. 2 to 1 tempo. I don't find temp measures useful for a full swing during actual play. Tour Tempo has an app for tempo beats. It's useful to use the tempo beats during practice of the full swing. I don't find them useful to think about during an actual full shot on the golf course. I think they very well could be useful for some golfers on full shots. I just prefer to have a clear mind on full shots.

j.d.
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The thing is with sound and putting is all good putters would have the same sound. Just different length of back swing
Those that have used a metronome understand like 70bpm or 75 is where best putters are and it’s the same beat for every putt

D.WhiteJr
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There was a mental game system called Quiet Mind Golf - this is similar but taken to the next level. Very interesting

craigb
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I’ve wondered if the constant music being played at Liv Golf events could negatively affect golfers tempo. What do you think?

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