Salt Lake City-The Founded City

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An exploration into one of the most interesting cities concerning the timeline and settling during the challenges of the mid-19th century. Salt Lake City defied growth expectations from a group of people that moved all over the United States.

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15:40..."Nobody wants to have a legitimate intellectual conversation about the possibilities of things, they simply ridicule you for asking questions." You can apply that to so much... the Jib Jab, Moon landing, Tartaria, etc. Decades of fluoride have done the job. People love to be told what to do and think. Slaves grow to love their chains. Excellent content as usual here 👍

steveodonnell
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I was born and raised in SLC, and I've always marveled at how these structural wonders could have been built by a close-knit farming community of people who wiped with corn cobs and had winters to survive.

dfwpiper
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Salt Lake city is a major narrative buster....this fantastic presentation lays out that fact quite nicely...

oldworldex
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I’m from Utah and related to Brigham Young, the three women and the two children that came first to Salt Lake City. There’s absolutely no way the LDS pioneers built the temple, the capital building, other city buildings and even down in Provo. Also the Manti Temple was definitely not built by them. They weren’t and still aren’t able to replicate these two temples. There are Masonic cut into the outside of the Salt Lake Temple too. Inside both temples they smell very old and moldy. Is there water running under them, I don’t know. I do know that the US government was here “fighting the Indians” or where they out here before the pioneers destroying evidence of the previous owners? Who knows? All I know is the LDS church tries to explain why the early church leaders were Masons and the Masonic symbols on the Salt Lake temple as nothing to see here. Wish we could just know the truth.

MamaBearTahoe
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It's almost creepy to think we don't build like this anymore, because (1) We can't, or (2), we won't. If we can't, aren't we a fallen society, degrading? If we won't--why do the builders want dehumanized brutalist architecture? The latter, "they hate us" is at least understandable. If we can't, we might as well have been a different society.

joshgulrud
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I love that you have or tried to collaborate with Jon Levi. You guys are great. I watch you everytime it pops up. Will keep doing so.

ryansnustad
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Great video, and so happy to see areas I have personally explored! I live in SLC now and have done a lot of boots on the ground, and I have been amazed at what I’ve seen. After exploring one of my favorite tubing spots, Shoot the Tube, , I found old stone work hidden away. I got curious, came back another time, found bricks and ruins. I looked these ruins up and found out there used to be a reservoir (Parleys Canyon Reservoir) complete with old world style masonry. If you explore the neighborhoods nearby, there are a few schools and buildings around the area that appear to be old world as well. So much more to look into.

EllisBatishchev
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I've noticed that a lot of the old building seem to have stairs that have been retro-fitted. It seems common in many of the "Greco-Roman" libraries around the country, as though the interiors were completely gutted and rebuilt. That should not be the case when the buildings are claimed to have been specifically built as libraries. Just one of the many discrepancies I've noticed. The Library in Pawtucket RI was redone with glass floors and clearly shows the building had 2 floors with very high ceilings and was made into 3 floors that still have 10 ft floors. It gave me the feeling it was a 2 flood house originally.

adventureseekersparadise
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I just visited Salt Lake City last summer and it was AMAZING! The buildings downtown had the most exquisite and precise brick work that I have ever seen in any city in the western United States. It’s obvious that the early settlers didn’t build the Temple, so I asked a nice Mormon young lady how the magnificent Mormon Tabernacle was built, with its enormous pipes? I think she probably gave me the most honest answer I could have received. She told me that they had some help from “the angels.”

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I think we are a much older civilization. I always think of gargoyles and bee hives when I look at buildings lol. The roller coaster reminded me of Kings Island. Thank you for sharing your wonderful video.

cathybroughton
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The inner tabernacle pillars are wood painted to look like marble 🙏

Canceledclub
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There were over 11000 people living in Salt Lake County within 3 years after Brigham Young's group of pioneers arrived lol.

ChadBillAnderson
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31:25 The City & County Building sign is clearly a new addition to the scroll work. They sure thought they could fool us.

bunnyfoofoo
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I was going to throw out some context for fun, but realize the fact the Mormons did so much more in a tiny bit of time, that it actually plays into where you're going, haha. Especially when you consider there's people who are convinced Joseph Smith was visited by the same kind of extra-terrestrial beings that had helped mankind throughout history (Egypt, Aztecs, etc.). It's easy to toy with the theory too, when you find out Salt Lake City was actually the third city and third temple, that they'd built in a tiny window of time. First in Kirkland Ohio, before being chased out to Missouri. When Missouri made it legal to kill a Mormon (a law they forgot about until the 1970's when they realized it was still on the books, lol) they left the to Nauvoo, Illinois. Nauvoo was supposedly an uninhabitable swamp. But they turned it into a city so large, it was equal to or larger than Chicago... the exploding growth in size and population was at a rate that was insane. And worried Illinoisans, because suddenly a population who followed a man they called a prophet, had a political majority in the state. Joseph Smith was killed by a mob, and the new leader Brigham Young took them West, out of the US borders at the time. This is where I originally just wanted to add a bit to what you were saying in the video. Even though the first group to land in SLC was small, it was a population the size of Chicago at the time that arrived in SLC over a couple years time (well the ones who survived the trek... tons died). The reason Utah is called the "Beehive State" is because of visitors who, like you, couldn't believe how fast a city shot out of nowhere. And the SLC Temple was actually started, stopped, and then redone (because of cracks in the foundation). The decision to rebuild with granite meant cutting and transporting from a canyon that today would be about a 25-30 minute drive from the temple (Little Cottonwood Canyon). They also dug into the mountain DEEP, creating a cavern so large it is now one of the most secure and secretive vaults in the world. Most don't know much about the dimensions, but when you see how much granite was pulled out of the mountain... people think it goes deep. Which would seem like crazy foresight considering, thanks to the fact it's dug into a granite mountain, it's now a great vault/fallout point that could survive a Nuclear Blast. Pretty sure the Pioneers a century ago had no idea what a nuclear bomb is... but there it is, haha. The other coincidence is the Mormon Battalion. Asked to help the military in the Mexican-American War (to prove loyalty to the US, who in turn would offer assistance/protection to the Utah settlers), they formed the only battalion ever formed by a religious group in US Military history. The battalion would leave the pioneer trail (the first settlers weren't even to the Rockies yet) march to Arizona where they'd work with native Americans who taught them how to irrigate and farm in the desert (the natives living near Salt Lake had told them "good luck surviving" as they watched the Mormons settle in the salt water desert). The Battalion would then make it's way to California where they would be part of the first group to discover Gold (kicking off the gold rush), and bringing thousands of dollars worth to Salt Lake to help the city (also helping to turn the city into a true stop and trading point for pioneers and gold rush travelers), along with using the irrigation techniques they'd learned from the Arizona native Americans to help turn the desert valley into farm land. Huge stroke of luck right. That's why some of the outside (and fun) thinkers are convinced extra intelligence was involved. Because Joseph Smith was an uneducated farmer who saw two beings in the sky, they gave him instructions and then suddenly he translated (or wrote as some like to think) a book of scripture in the style of the King James Bible, built three temples, and established three cities (the last becoming the largest in Illinois at the time) in such a short period of time. I totally get why people would be a little curious about "other things" going on. Especially when, out of nowhere, there was a massive European-Goth style temple standing in the rockies, in a desert valley, next to a Salt Lake that (thanks to its insanely high salt content) actually should be doing the opposite of "helping provide a way of life." Ha, who knows if it's extra-terrestrial beings, a true God, or an insane amount of luck and ingenuity coming from hard workers who had already built three other cities.... but it's fun to play with theories.

halasima
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Watching this clip makes me wonder, just a LOT! If you look at the JS Mem Bldg, the temple, the tabernacle and the Assembly Hall (pictured, but not mentioned in video), they are grand buildings and take up residence within a two block area. Temple Square houses temple, tab., & assembly hall. Across the street is JSMB. However, the neighbor of JSMB, being only one block from Temple Square is a building called the Beehive house. It has columns, (not fancy) railings, (not fancy) exterior is nice, but not the same league as the others. Inside, if you take a tour, the building is cramped, ceilings low, doorways miniscule, bedrooms almost an afterthought. They relish in showing people the 'net' that served as the box springs of the bedframe, saying that the adage 'sleep tight' came from having a tight net under your tiny bed. They said the short ceilings/doors was because people were shorter back then. I got claustrophobia in there. Why the discrepancy in building styles? They say it was built 1854. Don't forget that they were also battling crickets! My theory is that there were pictures left behind by the Tartarians (or whomever) that the people who came along and started using 'found' and decided to make up the story. Remember, Mormonism is all about keeping secrets.

LindaArmstrong-zb
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Hello everyone from New Castle Indiana USA. Jon Levi country! Thank you for all you do my friend ✌️

resqfreedom
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I lived in SLC for 9 yrs, and always loved the downtown buildings and houses! I worked in the neighborhood east of the Temple and the houses were so beautiful! Thank you for all your insights and ways of narrating these ridiculous old stories of these beautiful cities!!

angelac.
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Growing up a former Mormon in Salt Lake we were told our whole lives that the temple used no mortar (the blocks were perfectly cut and placed on each other), and that the builders were inspired to put elevator shafts in the temple before elevators were even invented🤨I thought it was divinely inspired at the time🤦🏻‍♀️

NewNameLeah
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The more you look at the 1800's, the more bizarre it becomes. Michelle Gibson posits that a time loop occurred between 1492 and 1942, with the mid-point year being 1717. This "break" in the space-time fabric allowed negative entities to insert an occult timeline over the existing timeline, causing mass destruction and allowed negative beings to incarnate and take control of the planet. I dismissed this as crazy at first, but I don't anymore. Something beyond strange happened. There was a clean break or schism from the prior civilization and ours. No continuity at all and I don't think we are even related to the prior inhabitants.They are not our dear ol' grandpappys When a civilization experiences a major disaster, it recovers, rebuilds and continues with some of the characteristics they had before the disaster. Not in this case. We don't use energy the same. We don't build the same. We don't have the same transportation. We have different morals and values. We don't even look the same. (very speculative). Clean break.

MudfloodUSA
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Built with horses and wagons!! WoW😂 another awesome vid. I really enjoy ur shares of truth and knowledge 😊❤

JamieCrain