The TRUE ORIGIN of the Weeping Angels!

There's a popular Doctor Who fan theory that claims the iconic Weeping Angels are actually Time Lords, The Doctor's own people. But how convincing is the theory?

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[DanTheManAD]

Now we patiently wait for Harbo to deconstruct the theory of Rory being The Master.

[gregf]

No, I think The Weeping Angels are a race far older than the Time Lords. Yes, they appear to feed on Artron Energy, but that's about it. Their exact origin possibly predates the current universe being "leftovers" from a prior epoch.

[SerathDarklands]

The Weeping Angels are definitely cool, but there are a few newly-added monsters that I like more. The Time Reapers from _Father's Day, _ the Vashta Nerada from _Silence in the Library_ and _Forest of the Dead, _ and the Midnight Entity from _Midnight_ all are much more fascinating to me.

[ericstahmer]

I like the headcanon that the Weeping Angels are the souls of Tardises killed in the Time War. It has about as little supporting it as the Time Lord theory but it would explain why they’re as old as the universe since Tardises can go anywhere in time and space.

[JCM-vegg]

I always got the impression there was a shared history between the Angels and Time Lords ever since that line of dialogue from Rassilon in End of Time, or at the very least they were in conflict in the Dark Times maybe, or the Time Lords are actually responsible for them becoming quantum locked eons ago. In that same story we learn about some of the eldritch horrors the Time War birthed so I don't think any of that is far-fetched. But I think they should leave it at that and let people speculate like with the Midnight Entity.

But my favourite theory you put forward was the one where the Weeping Angels are Time Lords erased from existence that have returned to the universe somehow. Because their appearances could then be interpreted in a sort of Lovecraftian way where their true forms as non-existent outer gods are so horrific they can't be perceived by most species, so they manifest themselves as statues. I always thought it was lame when Time of Angels showed them in motion and they're still statues, when they're unobserved I like to think they look nothing like stone angel statues.

[stevedavid]

In The End Of Time Part Two, David Tennants final episode, Rassilon states "only two are against, and will stand as monument of shame...like the weeping angels of old" this tells me they will freeze the Timelords in stone as punishment like a weeping angel but not actually as one.

[kateglew]

I like this theory just fine but I'd prefer for the origin of the Angels to remain a mystery.

[maxblake]

I personally think that the Weeping Angels are the ones who imprisoned the Beast, the massive Satanic monster from the story that introduced the Ood. If I’m remembering right, the Beast’s spirit has a line about the ones that imprisoned Him that made me immediately think of the Weeping Angels.

[beesbrownies]

I really like the "natural predator" idea. Makes most connections between the species make sense, as Time Lords would naturally reference and maybe even tap into the primal fear of a, if not the only, predator. They could be a symbol of shame because for a Time Lord to fall victim to a time based trap would be sneered upon, and would damage the species' reputation.

[bmvthemoviefanatic]

I personally LOVE this theory. It's likely not what RTD or Moffatt intended, and though there are some minor contradictions, I just think enough makes sense for it to work, especially with the Five Doctors moment, and it would make for an interesting Time Lord/Weeping Angel storyline in the future. HOWEVER, I do agree the mystique of the Weeping Angels is what makes them great. That being said, though I believe their origins should stay a mystery, IF they were ever revealed, I think this is a cool way to go, as opposed to what was going to be done in Class Season 2.

[RoyalKingOliver]

Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if you kept exploring more Doctor Who theories. Especially with the hype train gearing up towards the 60th anniversary and everything surrounding the mystery behind the 14th Doctor and RTD

[akiraokami]

I would personally say that most theories about the Weeping Angels being the evolved form of any creature we currently know of is disputed by the simple line that they've existed since the beginning.
While the time lords banished from time could potentially work and from a purely technical standpoint, so could any species that has time traveling capabilities, it seems highly unlikely as sooner or later you'd run into a point in history where people either know who became the Weeping Angels or they'd have a good idea.

If anything I would say that they came through the same portal that brought the timeless child, and even then I wouldn't give that theory much to stand on, it's more likely that they are from before creation, a species that somehow survived from whatever came before the current existence.

[robertdragoff]

Weeping angels are relatively new, having come about in the rebooted series….

But it’s interesting that fans have tried to connect the dots from the shows past to explain weeping angels and how they came to being.

Interesting video

[rfactor]

I like the idea of a multi-orgin for the Angels, not unlike the Cybermen. The like the angels of old line is a great implication that the punishment can result in Weeping Angels, but there have always been some. The angels of ild that could be simply angels travelling back that far... or something more eldritch.

[r.howardlawrence]

If the Angels require time displacement to extract the potential existence of a lifetime to survive, it is possible that they existed in some form prior to the beginning of time.
There must have been a vast amount of potential time during that existence that was reduced to a unmeasurable tiny amount when time began. The Angels would have ceased to exist except for those who could extract the potential from beings who existed in time. I'm not saying this is accurate but it does not contradict the lore from Blink nor does it seem to run counter to other episodes where the appear.

Second thought: The Statue of Liberty is Metal, not stone and cannot be an actual Angel. It could possibly be a construct of the Angels or an entirely different being mimicking the Angels. In fact many of the beings thought to be Angels but acting contrary to Blink's established canon could be from this same race of mimics.

[Supersonic]

torchwood episode 4 "small worlds" is about fairies and these fairies are fairly similar to the weeping angels as captain Jack Harkness says that they are as old as the universe and they can travel in time, specifically back in time as they take children to the past. They are also very cruel like weeping angels and the final shot is a zoom in of a very angel-like fairy. Finally, the voice in the background says, "the world would be full of weeping" and emphasis is put on the word weeping. So yea I think weeping angels are the fairies just a different form.

[jimmyfrench]

1. Chibnall should not be considered cannon, desperately hoping for a return to comparatively lore standard Who soon.
2. Blink was amazing, but they then destroyed the story quickly…recall how they protected Sally & ?? when the Tardis left them between angels…then we see Angels en masse & trapping people between them, no way they don’t see each other…even being so large there’s no way they wouldn’t be seen…

[DoctorDex]

I don't think they are timelords. To me they seem like a being operating on a different plane of reality.
Like they are in constant flux until they are observed and manifest themselves as a stone statue.
Perhaps timelords studied them to unravel the secrets of mechanical time travel. It's just a fun mystery.

[spcwholesome]

I like the deleted time lords who came back and the natural predators for time lords theories best. The natural predator one would be perfect, considering the position they stand in is shameful for time lords to stand in like the king or whatever said.

[Neutral_Tired]

The weeping angels just snapping people's necks made sense in their 2nd appearance because they were too weak and starved to use their chronal powers. It doesn't work in basically any scenario where they're at full power