Presuppusitional Apologetics | Bob - Montana | Atheist Experience 21.11

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The Atheist Experience 21.11 for March 19, 2017 with Tracie Harris and guest Phil Ferguson.

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The updates to the caller info just add so much to this call.

WukongTheMonkeyKing
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In Scandinavia, we have beaches where people can walk or bath completely naked.
Those people are often referred to as "Naturalists". So if you ask someone here "Are you a naturalist", you can come into the most unexpected situations. Mostly positive.

otrondal
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The laws of logic are nothing but descriptions of how existence behaves.

lawless
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" i dont debate " haha thats the funny thing about presuppositional apologists, they only use a script and cannot change from that and specially cannot handle questions themselves.

themplar
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Three axioms provide the foundation.
1. Existence exists (there is something rather than nothing)
2. Consciousness perceives existence
3. A = A (something is what it is and is not at the same time what is not)
You don't prove these. Rather, these axioms provide the very foundation necessary for an attempt to have any conversation in the first place. Any effort to deny these axioms requires the use of the axioms. So we simply can not do without them. No God is required here.

llkiii
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Hearing theists explain god sounds like parents convincing a child of the existence of Santa Claus.

richardhedd
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Not your typical presupper, but if "impossibility of the contrary" is uttered from your mouth with respect to the existence of a god, then your brain is definitely not engaged.

biggregg
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3:38 God's Not Dead was a commercial success, grossing over $62 million on a $2 million budget. Despite this, it was heavily panned by mainstream critics, who criticized its screenplay, Cronk's directing, performances, mean-spirited tone, characters, and use of straw man arguments and common stereotypes of atheists, instead of any actual debate. (Wikipedia review)

Gwaithmir
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😂😂😂 An atheist is a person who hates God? Ha ha ha! A person who hate God is a person who believe in God… If a person believe in God, he/she can either hate or love him.

nickvazquez
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It appears that there are two kinds of things in the world.
Material things, such as hardware and non-material things such software.
My question is, how does the software make the hardware move ?
Is the interface between them material or non-material and could software exist independently ?

tedgrant
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‘Are you a ‘naturalist’? Well what are you, a ‘supernaturalist’? Even if you believe a god exists, nature also exists. I’d think anyone would have to admit nature exists, even if you think ‘supernatural’ exists you wouldn’t think the supernatural is the ONLY thing that exists, that would just be crazy.

davids
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Lol, "What do you think of the arguments made by both sides?" Well, Josh can be torn to shreds with zero effort, and Radisson was a strawman that made no argument that any atheist would actually make.

therobotchickenMLP
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We can now send electrons down a wire, representing money
and receive electrons down the same wires representing computer games, films, music etc
Isn't that amazing ? It's a miracle !

tedgrant
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laws of logic i think god did. right off the bat. its an argument from ignorance.

I saw That movie and came to the concussion that no one in the movie can act.

davidewersphotography
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The title spells presuppositional incorrectly.

lightbeforethetunnel
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How do you account for the laws of logic?

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