Most Efficient DIY SOLAR system, Micro Grid tie inverter vs Power limiter + battery vs NET Metering

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Im impressed with your level of knowledge and ability to explain it so well. People like you are what made this country great. Welcome to the US. I am a new subscriber.

bertbeaulieu
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This is the most honest financial analysis of solar I've ever seen! I'm in AZ and power is cheap here also. I had fun building a solar system on my RV for off-grid camping. Love the technology. But, trying to justify solar on my residence where cheap grid power is available and reliable - its just not cost effective. Your example with running the AC unit 4-5 months a year was excellent. One other factor I consider when doing the financial calculations for a payback period is the "opportunity cost." In other words, if you spend $5000 on a system and calculate your payback period to be 10 years, you should also consider how that $5000 COULD have worked for you over that 10 year period invested in stocks, bonds, or even high yield savings. Anyway, thanks for a great video!

gormanthomas
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You have identified some of the problems with grid tie solar systems. There are more.
In order to get around all of those problems, have power when the grid goes down, and get set up for expansion, for slightly more money I would suggest just making an off-grid system.
Instead of purchasing a $40 grid tie inverter, my suggestion would be a $15 charge controller and a $50 inverter. Find an inexpensive 12 volt deep cycle battery, or better yet a pair of used golf cart batteries that test still good from a Golf Cart Company.
This will give you a great start, be able to use all that the panels produce, and give you experience on how to run a larger system. You can then add panels, batteries, and other components as you can afford them.
This will help you to avoid having to ask permission from the utility company, fill out reams of their paperwork, possibly need to get higher insurance, pay any fines that they decide to give you, and deal with them shutting off your electricity. I have heard of all of these things happening.
Good luck and be safe.

johnwyman
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peeling back all the hype of solar power to a REALITY system

RioVistawaterratehistory-wgii
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Glad i found this video. UK is having an energy crisis and my tariff renewal is showing at 60p a kwh in my area up from my old fixed rate of 13.5p. Base usage is around 600W in my house and I was about to go for a whole battery system and 5kw array. Only problem is that I cannot have any grid feedback so i will probably save my money and setup 500w instead using a micro grid tie inverter. So not only am i saving on upfront cost but also able to move it with me when i move houses - something that isn't talked about often with solar.

sharjeelsaeed
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Great video and solid advice about the economics of solar. One small detail, the power meter only has one current sensor. Both legs of the 240 line go through it, one of them backwards. The currents sum. If you are drawing 200W on one leg but producing 100W on the other, the meter sees it as 100W consumption. You don't need to worry about balancing as long as the total combined power is not negative.

BwanaBob
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Great explanation
This makes a lot of sense
Even if you only save 72 dollars a year that is better then nothing at all.

brianstarkey
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Wow! Thank you for transferring that base level of knowledge. It fills in a lot of the gaps and questions I have had. You have done an outstanding job!

jimcarbone
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Using microinverters to cover the base energy (e.g. routers and other constant drains) is very clever.
Up to now i've focused on segregating those loads and the lighting of key rooms to a separate circuit feed by my solar and batteries.
The refrigerator and freezer are the highest energy loads in our my next target.

zaneenaz
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You made the perfect point. Base line power consumption is the way to go. Super informative. In Texas we have Reliant and power is free at night so we can cheat by using the base line solar in the day and then running everything else at night. Thanks for what you do.

anthonyayala
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I really like your analysis. I live in Mexico City and here, homes have a great subsidy for the first monthly 75 kWh (0.07$/kWh), a not so great for the next 65, and if you consume more, they'll charge you 0.25USD per kWh. If you consume more than 250kWh per month, your rate rises to 0.38usd/kWh! "Domicilio de Alto Consumo" (High Consumption Residence), and you don't have any subsidy, even if you consume 1kWh. Your normal rate only resets if you stay below 250 for 6 months.

The options for "selling" power to the grid are just like the ones available in the US, you need a pretty expensive (and certified) setup and a two phase service (it's a higher consumption setup; a normal home only uses one phase, as nearly no one needs heating, AC or 220V devices). They pay near 0.04usd/kWh for solar energy, so in my opinion, it's not worth it!

I'm planning to install a small setup just like yours, to stay below 250 monthly, and ideally, I'll take the benefit of not paying those expensive kWhs if I'm in the range between 140 and 250. So my system should pay for itself while I keep myself in the highly subsidized rate.

cesaralfredotrejo
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Great job! You can tell he has struggled with power companies in order to provide us with this valuable information! Thank you for sharing!

nicolashoffman
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Im in the Reno area power is cheap !
Solar salesman are like wild sagebrush out here, there cost you won’t pay the system off ever maybe 30 years ! I’m getting Tesla solar at 60-70% less still will take 10 years to pay off but long term it’s worth! Great 👍 vid 100% on point

campingforayearrenoheart
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Great finance perspective on solar system. In California, now we are getting more power outages. Electricity company has changed settings to trip off power even small tree branch hits power lines. No power for a day means food in the fridge is going to damage. So backup generator or battery is becoming necessity.

harism
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Spent 5k tossing a 3kw system with 10kwh 48v batteries, I just keep it isolated from the grid and run things off cords for now. It can run my gas furnace/fridge for a few days if grid goes down, but I do get use of the power daily for the most part.

SarahStuff-pu
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Very good video with practical talk . Micro inverters do not pay for themselves in one year in my location at $.12 per kilowatt hour . Take a 400 W panel and marry with an Entech micro converter and you’re looking realistically five years payback time. If the micro converter was maxed out at 300 W every day 8 hours a day, it would have a 3 -year payback time. At least that’s what my calculations show.

bobdenver
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THis is a honest video so Thanks very much, On internet basically what you find (for solar reviews) are sales speaks very hard to find a user that talk about his real experience from the economics, for me I came to the same conclusion as you, justify SOLAR where eletricity have good prices dont make any economic sense (I live in Texas), that why many goverments are artificially raising price from normal eletricity by heavy TAXES. great video and Thanks.

wwmilanl
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Cea mai buna explanation to date !!! thx :)

GitlabServer
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In Costa Rica, our power company charges $0, 12(USD) per kWh in the lower consumption range 0-200 kWh, for more than 300 kWh the rate increases to $0, 2(USD) per kWh. My monthly average consumption is 348 kWh (11, 6 kWh daily). I figured the same conclusion as you wisely advised, it is more profitable to reduce the average baseline for a greater ROI, in my case I just need to generate 5 to 7kWh solar per day, probably that means <2kW in panels for 3.6 sun peak hours (my location is closer to the Ecuator) for my goal to make from solar energy a realistic benefit. Thanks for your sharing your insides and experience.

lmeseguer
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Fantastic ...short and sweet, straight to the point..ty

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