Is the Prehistoric Cave Art a Fraud?

Jane Evershed joins Jay Weidner to talk about her theory that the prehistoric cave art found in France and Spain is a forgery created in modern times.

[swainsongable]

Just when I think I have a handle on the history of humankind I need to reevaluate EVERYTHING all over again - flexible skepticism is the ticket. The simple fact that "they" have put so much time, effort, and money into this global project behoves us to investigate relentlessly. Thanks again, Jay, for rocking the boat... again :)

[tairam]

Thank you for bringing Jane back! Fascinating discussion. Learned so much. You’re the best, Jay.

[darrensmith]

Well Jay, you've done it now. You've just set for yourself the impossible task of finding future guests that are as intelligent as this lady

[dominicaeyckmans]

oh yes please more of this!! And about the true power of art: get into the power of music that is underestimated by 'the public' yet constantly very knowingly (ab)used by the ones that want to rule everything....

[Antoward]

I always wonder why the microbes that live in the cave would not of eaten the pigments in the paint to say nothing of the damp on the walls over 30.000 years or more great show great guest

[medusawasframed]

Wow, I had the honor to visit Lascaux the last year it was open in about 1980. I will never get past the profundity of walking in and thr lights turning up. I was in a grouo visiting caves alk over the Dordogne. Man oh man!!! This is brilliant, you havr ubdone yourself here! Thank you Miss Evershed!

[karismith]

I saw the first interview and loved it, but I just now figured out I've bought 4 or 5 of her calendars. I loved the artwork so much, I framed the the pages. Stil have one hanging on the wall now.

[dawnrising]

Thank you Jay and Jane. I home educate my 3 children and you have both taught them and me a lot today. So appreciated xx

[GroovyButterfly]

JANE IS AMAZING!!! ✨😃✨ Love listening to what she uncovers!

[loufromlongisland]

What a lovely, informative and kind conversation! Thoroughly enjoyed....thank you. 💜

[rednightshine]

Indeed we need to see more of her with you Jay!

[educatedgypsee]

Absolutely love these conversations! For this reason I love technology, the opinions and knowledge of others takes minutes to listen and learn. The 1990's spent reading reading by the time the book was published one was behind the newest discoveries and theory

[dev]

Thank you Jane and Jay for sharing this message with us all.

[OrpheoTreshula]

Thanks for treating this. I've suspected that at least some 'primitive' art is ginned up for years. I'd be surprised if she's not on to something.

[mspenelope]

In my research I recently discovered the World Fairs were a key means for selling off tonnes of pillaged items from other societies that was left over from elite art markets. Archaeologists were up to their necks in the trade. Huge catalogues were published listing some of the items for sale. Fairs were held everywhere, incl Asia, Russia, not only in Europe and America.

[starcharlema]

Looking forward to this fascinating and important topic discussion. Jane Evershed's dive into Art and how it has influenced our history and our present inspires much needed critical thinking in navigating these unprecedented times.

[charmeenw]

Wow, phenomenal interview! Thank you both

[VJQuest]

Loved this thank you both... Would love you to speak with Clif High who says his ancestors were Cathars as well.

[grlpeterson]

Thank goodness, someone's FINALLY getting it out there more for everyone to discuss! Dude; thanks, Jay!

[Zpycer]

Picasso also said, when he emerged, “we have learning nothing in 12, 000 years” according to wiki.

I discovered quite a while that the original caves have been closed, and 100% accurate replicas had been painted for the public to views. I haven’t found that article, but even wiki has this on Lascaux:

“The cave complex was opened to the public on 14 July 1948, and initial archaeological investigations began a year later, focusing on the Shaft. By 1955, carbon dioxide, heat, humidity, and other contaminants produced by 1, 200 visitors per day had visibly damaged the paintings. As air condition deteriorated, fungi and lichen increasingly infested the walls. Consequently, the cave was closed to the public in 1963, the paintings were restored to their original state, and a monitoring system on a daily basis was introduced.

Replicas

Part of Lascaux IV
Conservation problems in the original cave have made the creation of replicas more important.

Lascaux II

Lascaux II, an exact copy of the Great Hall of the Bulls and the Painted Gallery was displayed at the Grand Palais in Paris, before being displayed from 1983 in the cave's vicinity (about 200 m or 660 ft away from the original cave), a compromise and attempt to present an impression of the paintings' scale and composition for the public without harming the originals.[10][13] A full range of Lascaux's parietal art is presented a few kilometres from the site at the Centre of Prehistoric Art, Le Parc du Thot, where there are also live animals representing ice-age fauna.[14]
The paintings for this site were duplicated with the same type of materials (such as iron oxide, charcoal, and ochre) which were believed to be used 19, 000 years ago.[9][15][16][17] Other facsimiles of Lascaux have also been produced over the years.

Lascaux III

Lascaux III is a series of five exact reproductions of the cave art (the Nave and Shaft) that, since 2012, have been exhibited in various countries, allowing knowledge of Lascaux to be shared widely, far away from the original.

Lascaux IV

Lascaux IV is the latest replica, in real scale, of the integrality of the cave of Lascaux. Situated on the same hill overlooking Montignac, [18] and 400 m from the original site, it is part of the International Centre for Parietal Art (Centre International de l'Art Pariétal) that was inaugurated in December 2016. The museum, built by Snøhetta, [19] integrates digital technology, workshops and films into adjacent display rooms.”