2023 NEC changes: GFCI protection (210.8)

This video covers the 2023 NEC changes in 210.8 for GFCI protection. *Note that 210.8(B)(4) should read "food SERVING and beverage SERVING, not food PREPARING and beverage PREPARING."

The 2023 edition of the National Electrical Code will be published in September of 2022.

[wonderfulbliss]

Might as well just install dual function AFCI/GFCI breakers for the whole house and just be done with it.

[coreysalo]

Seems it would be easier just to list what doesn't need GFCI protection.

[ditodant]

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[G.I.JeffsWorkbench]

Thanks for paying close attention to NEC updates. Very helpful.

[jamesramos]

Thank you Ryan for your help and support for all of us Sparkys out here in the field.

[swiley]

I am a Home Inspector in Texas and your photo of the bathroom requiring the bedroom receptacle to be GFCI protected was spot on. I recently inspected a home where the GFCI receptacle was on the left side of the sink while the still plugged in curling iron was plugged in the non-GFCI receptacle. There was nothing plugged into the GFCI so my reasoning was the user of the curling iron was right handed and was more convenient since the GFCI was operating properly. I left the home owner a note explaining the danger but your videos are FANTASTIC and extremely helpful.

[Renar]

27:30 without any doubt… those ACs whips are romex from the disconnect to hole in the wall then into 3/4 lfnc to the unit. Romex outdoor. Done here in texas 80 percent of the time 🥴

[supremeel]

Love the channel brother. I am a safety manager in the construction industry. Just purchased the 70E book to study. Will need it as we are building a Data center near Dulles airport Va.

[jimzimmerman]

The NEC should just make a code change to have every outlet to be GFCI protected. This has gone beyond crazy.

[ChrisTexan]

Thank you for this summarization! As a DIY homeowner on many projects, i prefer to follow all codes up to or beyond those required in my area, so this is excellent information to help in the "keeping up" process.

[Sparkeycarp]

The commercial kitchen sink at 21:00 is in a stainless frame and counter. Wouldn't that extent the 6' rule as the entire countertop is conductive.

[salmanalhuthaifi]

I am an international student studying construction engineer. You are the best person to explain the electrical code

Thanks

[fdonaldsonjr]

Just found your channel! Awesome content! Thank you for taking the time to help us to understand the NEC!!!

[currentlyblake]

I’ve been waiting on these to start coming out from you. I learned so much from the last code cycle.

[bradwilmot]

Nice, so now the 20A breaker for a mini-split is $120 instead of $28... Don't tell me Square D et al. don't have their fingers in the pie that is the NEC...

[TheElectrician]

Ryan, thanks for the update as always!

[jeffbower]

I actually made up an SO cord with cord cap that is 6' long from cord cap face to end of cord for measuring this. I obviously did not terminate the conductors in the cord cap.

[Nahumgood]

Ryan, this is good information. Thanks for helping us electricians to interpret the new code.

[rcinfla]

On the topic of GFI's for outside units, the "150 V or less to ground' might be mis-interpreted if a unit only has 240 vac feed with no neutral. It does have less than 150v to ground measured from either L1 or L2 to ground but the unit itself only runs on 240vac which is greater than 150v.

Further confusing the interpretation is "if supplied by single-phase branch circuit" may be interpreted as 120 vac only branch circuit.

I do understand the intent. After several years in my new house my 240 AC sprinkler pump died. When I went to install a new pump I discovered the ground wire was not originally connected to pump motor case. If the motor winding developed a short to case there could have been 120 vac on the case of pump to ground. Same can happen with an air conditioner metal case.

The problem with mini-splits and some variable speed compressors is their switching power supplies for three phase inverter VFD have some small EMI bypass capacitors to metal case ground, so they meet EMI (radio interference emissions) specifications. This creates a small amount of current on ground wire that creates the GFI ground fault.

Do you really think an A/C service shop replacing an old 240vac outside air conditioner compressor unit is going to get the old non-GFI equipped 240vac feed to outside unit upgraded with GFI breaker in fuse box?

[stillthakoolest]

Looking forward to getting the book as I will be testing for JW under 2023 code. As always, love how you keep things concise and clear and use examples from the field. Mike Holt's videos are near unwatchable with all his tangents and fluff. Thanks