Tom Holland on the Great Awokening

💥Join us on our Journey to 1 Million Subscribers💥 Award-winning author, historian and broadcaster Tom Holland joins us in the studio. Check out his latest bestselling title Dominion: The Making of the Western Mind.

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[Aetrion]

I think the main reason why wokeness is not progress is because they firmly believe that the antidote to discrimination is more discrimination, which just locks us into an eternal cycle of grievance mongering and using victimhood as an excuse to victimize others. Their ideology is also collectivist, and collectivism is extremely regressive.

[HaraldHadrada]

Zero conspiracy and propaganda. All truths and 100% history and philosophy. Gotta love Tom Holland the historian. Thanks Triggernometry.

[bigalski]

Tom Holland is a great historian. Christianity is still a powerful force, for all of us in the west

[rupertoldham]

Tom Holland is fantastic. He separates himself as objectively from the brutalities of history as he does today's. It gives me the sense that his eye sees a greater truth.

[paulhandley]

What a wonderful interview with an extraordinary, thoughtful and decent man. My only regret is that such people are so rare, still less influential, in the modern world.

[suewali]

Listening to Tom Holland last year was a part of our Awakening again to our Christian heritage as the roots of Western Civilization and the waters we swim in. In deepest gratitude to Tom Holland. (And to you both and Triggernometry).

[DaniboyBR]

It started as an interview, it ended up turning into a masterclass on theology.

[heather]

Tom is articulating things which I have been mulling over for a long time, however, he has thought it through far more clearly and he contextualises current social attitudes brilliantly because of his understanding of history.

[deusvult]

The great Chesterton said it all and more neatly many years ago:
The modern world is not evil; in some ways the modern world is far too good. It is full of wild and wasted virtues. When a religious scheme is shattered (as Christianity was shattered at the Reformation), it is not merely the vices that are let loose. The vices are, indeed, let loose, and they wander and do damage. But the virtues are let loose also; and the virtues wander more wildly, and the virtues do more terrible damage. The modern world is full of the old Christian virtues gone mad. The virtues have gone mad because they have been isolated from each other and are wandering alone. Thus some scientists care for truth; and their truth is pitiless. Thus some humanitarians only care for pity; and their pity (I am sorry to say) is often untruthful.
I would have appreciated it more had Holland stressed more the madness of modern virtues.

[karlnulty]

Brilliant interview. Fascinating. These historians could really help society understand itself and develop in the right way if more people would just listen to them,

[johnstarr]

An interesting and informative interview. Tom Holland shows his historical and intellectual class and refuses to be drawn into anti-woke tropes. In fact he, despite the leading questions, skilfully schools the interviewers in the benefits of progressive thinking without as much as a peep in response. I for one enjoyed this and learned a lot.

[tarekcompuworld]

Absolutely love Tom Holland. Best hour yet.

[benjaminlquinlan]

I've read everything by Tom Holland. Me and my best friend have been fans for the better part of a decade. I'm over the moon and not surprised that he's anti woke. Any historian worth their salt couldn't help but rebuke this filth.

[georgesdelatour]

Gregory of Nyssa declared slavery contrary to Christian teaching in the 4th Century.

[zwatwashdc]

Woke already has complete control of the universities. So we are pretty far down that road.

[childeweston]

Original Sin: the most democratic of doctrines. Man, do we all need a sense of our fallibility, now more than ever. Especially me.

[valipunctro]

Tom Holland great as always, this man even when he stutters is more eloquent than 90% of us.

[keithhotten]

Would love to see Tom Holland in conversation with Jordan Peterson.

[PapaSmurf]

I was hooked in the first 3 minutes. What an excellent, excellent conversation. Tom Holland and Triggernometry are class acts.

[matdakin]

Really interesting perspective from Tom. Love his books and found this historical contextualisation of the current politics somehow reassuring. Happy to be a subscriber supporting these long-form interviews and guests. Keep up the good work.