Unfiltered Take on Medjugorje

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Matt and Thrsdy Give their opinions on the Medjugorje.



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Correction:
In 1991 the Yugoslavian Bishops found no evidence of the supernatural in the apparitions. They did not find evidence for the first seven as Thrsdy stated in the video. This came in 2017 with the Ruini Report. The full statement of the Yugoslavian Bishop's Conference can be found below. They did say the faithful visiting the site "require[d] attention and pastoral care." The official approval of Medjugorje as a pilgrimage site came in 2017 with the Ruini Report.

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Here is the worst "fruit" of Medjugorje that I have witnessed. Believers ostracize anyone who questions what is happening at Medjugorje.

barbaramazzocca
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I saw this old newscast on the visionaries and a reporter was told the visionaries, while having a vision, could not be distracted in any way while they are having a vision. To test this he took his hand and quickly waved it in the face of a visionary and they reacted to it to avoid potentially getting hit. Afterwards the visionary was asked why she moved, and she said because it looked like mother Mary was going to drop baby Jesus.

After seeing this report I have quite a bit of doubt about these apparitions.

CatholicE
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To all the people that are saying Medjugorje is legitimate, can you explain to me why the lady in the apparitions told Franciscan priests to disobey their bishops orders when he told them not to involve themselves in these apparitions? Or why the apparitions in 1983 told us to respect the Muslim religion and keep our religion for ourselves and our children? Or why in 2012 when there was an apparition supposed to happen at Notre Dame, they had to reschedule due to a basketball game and apparently "Mary" was cool with that? Why has the local Bishop judged them as false? Why does Ivan have an 800k house in Massachusetts and sell tickets to see the home where she first appeared? I'm going to need way more evidence than people saying that it personally struck them. Lots of people have been personally struck by the book of mormon or the Koran, so that's not good enough.

FourKidsNoMoney
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When I was in California, we had one of the Medugorje people come to town and tell us if we came that evening, we were guaranteed that the person would have a revelation at that time. It just did not ring true to me that the Mother of God would be able to be scheduled that way.

roymckenzie
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The EMJ deep dive on Medju is tremendously good yes

SensusFidelium
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I have visited Medjugorje many times. It has played a crucial role in my conversion and decision to live my life as practicing catholic. In Medjugorje people confess often after decades without confession, they fall in love with Eucharist, they discover the beauty of praying rosary. It is approved pilgrimage site by the Church and apostolic visitator Hosier said that it is the spiritual lungs of Europe. And you should experience the Eucharistic adoration in the evening. It is truly out of this world. I have heard many negative comments comming from American catholics about Medjugorje, even the priests. Some people even claiming it is diabolical, and people should be very carefull when they say such things. This is why the Church didn't give its final verdict yet. But if Medjugorje was inspired by devil, you would not have milions of people converting, milions confessing, milions praying daily rosary, hundreds of spiritual vocations. It reminds me of fariseys saying that Jesus has bezelbub and by its power he is excorcising demons. Just because it is easier to sit in a sofa half a world away and say Medjugorje is evil without any idea of what it is, does not mean it is a right thing to do. I will end with solid message that I learned in Medjugorje. Pray rosary every day, confess as often as you need, attend mass and recieve holy communion at least every sunday, go to eucharistic adoration, live your faith and be as Catholic as you can get.

antoniobaricevic
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30+ years ago, few months after my 7th brain surgery to treat a malignant brain tumor. Upon our return, brain tumor shrunk, it’s gone, and we’ve spent our time since serving God.
Measure should be You’ll know them by their fruits, so said Jesus.

timbiondo
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For starters I’m a tradition Latin mass catholic. I’ve been to medjugorie, Fatima, Lourdes and even garabandal. The place where I was confirmed in my faith in the Eucharist was medjugorie. It was during holy hour. The church was packed. I could not even see the monstrance but when the priest blessed the people with Jesus I knew at that precise moment that this was Jesus. I have not lost that to this day. I was 18 when it happened and now I’m almost 45. Now I’m not saying that this proves the authenticity of medjugorie. It’s a Catholic parish in Bosnia. My experience could have occurred in any catholic parish in America but God chose to reveal Himself to me there. Why? I don’t know.

LinaSis
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thank you...initially I believed in Medjugore as a revert but upon reading the Bishop's Letter where the 4 of the children lie on 13 occasions state that the Lady said Fr Vigano was innocent of sexual misconduct ( he later has 2 children by a nun and lives in the region selling 660000 copies of his book) and he could administer the sacraments when Pope JP 2 had forbidden it, that was enough for me...there are so many approved apparitions to devote one's time to....the kids grew up to be very rich...I can remember how the boy stayed at my friends house and ate meat knowing it was Friday, demanded the best cigarettes, had an apparition in his bedroom and then when asked what our Lady said replied "nothing of importance" my poor friend and that country community were absolutely devastated by the behaviour...

edelmary
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My conversion and so many i know are as a result of Medugorje.. ive never ever seen a Marion apparition site that has the focus on Confession that Medugorje has. Life changing confessions leading to conversion are happening there. You have to be there to experience it. Its truely amazing to see the priests offering confessions the way they do in Medugorje. There are miracles happening in and around St.James Church, whether the apparitions are happening or not! people are coming back from Medugorje in their faith or stronger in their faith. Not to mention the prayer groups that have popped up around the world as a result of Our Lady Queen of Peace...

Dee-xwiy
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Good onya, Matt and friend.
Unlike Fatima and Lourdes, the bishops in Medjugorje have officially stated that there is nothing supernatural happening here.
The point that is being made by Matt and friend is that it is not an approved site, that we shouldn't promote it and that it is better to go on pilgrimage to approved sites. Telling Matt and friend to go there and you'll see is irrelevant as that won't change the Church's decision and therefore their take on the matter.
In my opinion, the disobedience to the Church's decision on Medjugorje should itself be a discerning sign as to who is fuelling the fire. And there's a lot of fire where this person comes from.

colingomes
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I visited međjugorje two months ago. It was my first time out of the country, if i'm going to be honest, I didn't really like it.
One of the priests wasn't very nice saying awfull things about clothing, hats and had a very bad attitude about non-catholic christians saying that they don't belive right.
He said things about joga and was VERY rude to people .
To sum it all up, my worst holiday so far. 😢

JustinCrawford-ekkp
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I am a Croat and live a few hours away from it.
I was there couple of times and haven't felt anything supernatural as Matt says either but the place feels calming.
But what I did hear is that people across the world who have gone came back to faith like the fire inside them lit up again and many were healed also.
Maybe people didn't see anything but results of people going are real.

snokehusk
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Matt and I are the same. I prefer to focus on the things the Church requires: dogma, scripture, repentance, prayer, fasting rather than spending my time on a devotion that isn’t even required to have.

fabiolagarzacreates
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I've been to Medjugorje 4 times (just got back) and what I love about it is that it is very CATHOLIC! I have never seen any of the visionaries, nor do we seek them out. My husband and I go there to 1. Climb 'apparition' hill praying the whole rosary; 2. Climb Cross Mountain (higher) praying the Stations of the Cross (in searing heat usually!) Many people do this in bare feet or on their knees; 3. attend confession: at peak times there are literally dozens of priests hearing confessions in all different languages and long queues for confessions. A priest friend of ours just sat down on a bench to chill and a bunch of people started queuing up for confession lol; 4. attend Holy Mass every day. It is one of the few places where hundreds or even thousands of regular Catholics can be found and the norm is to receive Our Lord kneeling and on the tongue. It is literally Catholic town. People stop and talk to you and you know you share the same faith. I know several priests who received their vocation at Medjugorje and lay people who have converted or reverted to the faith. By their fruits ... (also great Catholic jewellery and devotionals :-) )

rose-annrumpus
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It's just strange. I've never heard of any other genuine apparition that involves the BVM appearing every day for decades, without any apparent purpose other than to say the same things over and over. Definitely some things that seem to contradict the Faith. Even the image is unusual -- Mary always shows her feet when she appears (the feet which trample the serpent).

victoriaeinbinder
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Pints With Aquinas has helped so many Protestants leave their sects and become fully Christian ✝️

Theosis_and_prayer
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True facts, not wrong. I have had so many otherwise very charismatic (sort of weird, lets be honest) and faithful Catholics tell me about how excited they are to go to Medjugorje, and how much they loved being there when they were there, and I'm just like "Do I tell them about the controversy and why I'm so "meh" to that particular site, or do I just smile and nod?"
if the original and second Bishops of the area have both not approved it, I'm very hesitant to consider it further

ArchetypeGotoh
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Medugorje is amazing, I love it. I encourage anyone who wants to go, to go. It’s fully rooted in the Catholic faith.

DaithiDeNogla
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Something just doesn’t seem right about Medugorje. Not one of the seers became a nun or priest as with virtually all the previous seers the Virgin Mary appeared to. Instead they became millionaires, profiting off of pilgrimage visits. The priest and children’s mentor pushing this nonsense in the 80’s was defrocked for conjuring spirits, but not before beginning his own cult and impregnating a nun. The whole thing reeks. Why are good and even intelligent catholics falling for this?

iemiranda