Selective Scripture: Bending Bible Characters to Fit Any Narrative

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Today's episode is a tuesday takedown that looks at a preacher using rahab as a message of god's plan for one's life as well as the importance of faith. This manipulation of the tale is incorrect for many reasons. I break this down, as well as give my own example of this kind reframing with Judas Iscariot.

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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:03 Agenda
1:37 The Clip
2:17 Initial Issues
4:20 Rahab Story
8:13 Ethical Issues
11:26 Judas Example
14:22 Loyalty Via Fear
17:24 Final Thoughts
17:39 Patron Thanks

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[rochelebierhalspereira]

whenever you say "innocent women and children" my heart hurts remembering a time when I was taught to react to this with "no one is innocent, we are all filthy and unworthy, we deserve only the fires of hell forever". It always bothered me, and I am ashamed to think that it took 35 years to say "enough".

[dasbus]

I wonder how many people, when they thought _"I feel God made me for a purpose, I feel like God designed me for something bigger than myself", _ concluded that this purpose was simply to die a horrible death for the glory of others? If God does indeed have a plan, why do people assume they aren't just mere pawns?

[vulpixelful]

"When we feel like we're nobodies" we should go to therapy, not to somebody who preys on low self-esteem like this pastor.

[EricaPippin-pd]

"Even when the bible fails, it fails in the wrong direction". 😅 I actually chuckled.

[dougt]

I've asked a pastor - if the bible is god's perfect word, why should I trust their human commentary on it over what it actually says?

[Sky-smjz]

As a young child I questioned and was confused at the stories of Abraham's willingness to murder Issac, God allowing Job to lose everything including his children and Lot's wife being turned into a pillar of salt for looking back at her home being destroyed. The moral of the story the adults taught was always FAITH. I gave up questioning and accepted the bullshit. I wish I had had more faith in that child I was. So grateful you help bring back the common sense that Bible storytelling and manipulation convinced so many into giving up.

[TheHeavyshadow]

The thing about Judas was something I even thought back when I was a believer. Like: "Yeah, he sold Jesus out. But wasn't that necessary for the sacrifice to happen? Why should he get shit for that when what he did was actually necessary for everyone to be safed? What else was supposed to happen?"

[n.c.]

I get sick thinking about how children are manipulated.... everywhere... all over the world... for any and every reason...Sometimes they live long enough to tell their story and hope for change.

[jonathanfarquhar]

It's great you added the bible text. It's not vague like "killed everyone" or simply "burned it to the ground". No! It says men and women, young and old. When apologists say it's a fort to try whitewash the OT they are lying!

[californiadoll]

Ironic how everything is Gods will... until its CANCER then all of a sudden "G0d hAs n0tHInG tO Do wIth gIVinG pE0pLe cAncEr" ... and again when the person is in remission then magically it's Gods will 😂

[ApostateAladdin]

I gotta say that your consistently timed and high quality videos are an impressive feat. Keep up the good work!

[PPLRRN]

What baffles me is how God promises lands already occupied by others. He owns everything, why can't he just give them another land? Raise a whole island, a planet, a universe for his people? And whose people are the rest? Is he disowning them? My ancestors are not from Israel, does that mean I'm not part of all this?

[QueenBoadicea]

7:11 Faith and fear aren't confused by the believer; they're the same thing. Remember, these are people who call themselves God-FEARING folks.

[funkatron]

I will sometimes ask Christians if they believe Judas is in hell. Many assert yes, then have a real hard time justifying why.

[EricaPippin-pd]

Sometimes I like to believe there is a really amazing being out there who has no book, no religion, nothing like that- but just loves us and looks on us with kindness. No interference. Just love. Just a thought. I will never ascribe to this religion or any other for the rest of my existence.

[edwardvan]

One common question asked about Biblical passages is "what does this mean to you?" The question needs to be "what does it mean
to those at that time?" So learning the Bible means not just the scripture but learning the culture(s) during that time period.

[One-Zig]

It’s all about fear. Fear of not knowing what happens after dying. Fear of a ruthless war god that demands fear, adoration and love(?) with threat of eternal torture. I’m certain if an alternate path to heaven was offered, not involving Yahweh, few people would continue validating this monster or subject themselves to these insufferable church services.

[krackkokichi]

crazy how fear is never allowed to just be fear, like this story or the commands to fear god. they have to make it something else like faith or respect. it's almost like they know acknowledging that it is fear just makes their god look bad

[pinky]

I actually made that Judas-comment while still in the church. I asked why everybody see him as the bad guy, he just did what God wanted him to do? I was not popular, to say the least. I said it to see what reaction I would get, and I got the reaction I expected to get.

[kb]

This was one of of my biggest contention points when deconstructing. When I was Christian, I never understood why Judas was considered a villain. Jesus stayed up all night to the point of passing out and sweating blood praying not to die and eventually came to terms with the fact that he had to in order to fulfill this divine plan, and then TOLD his followers that it would be one of them that would turn him over to the Romans. He Then TOLD Judas to go do what he had to do. It seems really clear that in that story, Judas is doing his part to complete the biblical salvation plan under Jesus’ instruction. Bypassing all moral problems with that, Jesus clearly knew the plan and, and Christians say, was a willing sacrifice. For whatever reason turning himself in wouldn’t work right for the cosmic drama or presumably he would have done so. Without Judas, no one gets to heaven.

Now I can’t defend that any of that is true or right because I don’t think it is, but 100% in the story as written and accepted by Christians, Judas was a hero in that story and Jesus was in on it.