Why Germany and Poland Have Fallen Out (again)

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Despite similar political leanings and a long history between Tusk and Scholz, tensions are rising between Germany and Poland over Nordstream and Ukraine. So in this video, we'll explore these deteriorating relations and what this means for Europe.

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Sorry had to laugh really hard at "Two centrist dad figures" 😂 Scholz is the kind of dad that would just sit quietly in his corner and read a book, never engaging with his family.

DeWilsKanal
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Here in Poland, a lot of Law and Justice voters believe that Tusk is a German puppet, so it would be kinda funny to see their reaction to a video like this.

investigator
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As a Pole, calling this a divide is overreacting. Our leaders tend to play the anti-german card to get some populist points domestically, business as usual.

PalmaPikczers
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If there are any polish people here I would like to state that most Germans really like your country and your people and that there is no bad feeling whatsoever. Everyone is super impressed by your gorgeous cities and we can only urge you to not make our stupid mistakes.

nicok.
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Helping living victims of ww2 is a joke 80 years later. The country was demolished and all families were affected descendants probably as well “a good gesture” honestly made me laugh

hity
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In Poland people do not talk about the Nazi occupation but about the German occupation. My mother's house was bombed by German planes with the same black cross that Luftwaffe planes have today and my uncle was murdered by the Germans.

zbigniewkoper
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Poland: is Germany's second largest trade partner after China, secures its borders at enormous cost to stop countless migrants who want to flood Germany, build its army at even greater cost thanks to which Germany can stay demilitarized because its flank is secured, builds alternative gas lines and ports to make sure Russia cannot blackmail UE.
Germany: let's fund Putin again, lol.

jakubbednarczyk
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We had very long pro-Russian policies, even when they became less and less feasible, such as the NordStream pipelines. This seems to be a general Polish gripe and fundamental conflict of interests. Before the full-scale Russian attack on Ukraine, all debate in Germany was like: Poland, Ukraine want transit fees, USA want to sell dirty, expensive fracking gas. NordStream was attacked fiercely also by other than PiS /nationalists. In my opinion, Germany is in a rather convenient situation to end this debacle now: it had no real damage from the sabotage; gas prices were highest the summer before and constantly lowered at the time of the destruction. To continue gas imports from Russia after the 2022 invasion would have been the ultimate disaster. Blowing up the pipelines even saved Germany from pro-Russians, AfD, Wagenknecht, covidiots, screaming through the winter of 2022/23 to continue imports on Russian terms. Perhaps there should be a German politician coming out, saying that MordStream was a mistake, and we can be happy that it's gone.

BBirke
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Better do fact check. GERMANY said they will give 4billion is not the same as GERMANY gave 4 billion. They play this game since the begining of the war…

SzycMarcin
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Scholz international politics are an embarrassment. Which is even more surprising if you consider that only a small part of his own party have a different view on international politics. You don't have any other political field with so much common ground between his party and his coalition partners. But he still gets nothing done.

johnhobbes
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As a German, I support Poland, our government has lost its mind...

ben
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Lack of strategic wisdom by Scholz, not only in relation to Poland but also in relation to the other major neighbour, France.

ollifrank
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As a german I actually really like Poland, don’t know what our governments do

lukasj
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Germany is led by idiots. And I am not only talking about out current government. I am talking about all the parties from far left to far right. Most of them are opportunists just seeking benefits for themselves by entering politics, not having the people's best interest at heart. It starts at simple economic stuff like debt policies, where we still have people believing that having debt is a bad thing. It's quite insane when you think about it.

batorian
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Tusk must play tough on Germany because in the past he was accused for being too soft. At the same time there's an impression in Poland that Germany had prioritized its interests in Eastern Europe at the expense of security which resulted with Russian invasion of Ukraine. As for Nord Stream I blow up, its impossible that Polish government had something to do with this. But at the same time I am not surprised that Polish police is not much in a hurry with chasing the suspects. In general Poland wish to see responsible and serious German commitment to support the region, instead of securing its own interests and ambiguity towards Russia.

candelas
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Scholz is disliked by nearly all his neighbours.

johnsmithers
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[2003] "They wasted an opportunity to keep quiet" - Jacques Chirac about Poland. [2024] "You should apologize and keep quiet" - Donald Tusk about Germany.

robertgrabowski
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I’m Polish and I see many Germans criticize their government in this comment section. That is your right, but I must stress that our government isn’t perfect either and it seems that the fervently pro-EU rhetoric of some/many PO politicians (and from other parties) is starting to disturb the politicians themselves. For a long time, PO was a very europhile party and it still is. It often looked amazed by the concept of a more integrated EU (with a slight centrist approach). Some PO politicians were famously acting as if Poland had become just (or nearly) as wealthy as Western Europe when they got to power, even though that wasn’t the case. Of course, there is a fair share of “funny” politicians in every party.

All in all, i have respect for the modern German people and wish them all the best. I hope they can sort their economic woes out, just as we can start fixing our roads (lol). And I have a message for any and all still reading this comment - you can criticize the German government, but the current Polish one isn’t holy either. It’s not like we’ve witnessed historical changes between Morawiecki’s and Tusk’s premierships.

L_back
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Germany has consistently shown during this war that it cares more about cheap Russian gas than Ukrainian lives.

henkfinkers
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I will not take the rift seriously as long as Scholtz does not mention that Germany needs a corridor to Kónigsberg.

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