Kyle & Krystal Discuss Their Engagement | Krystal Kyle & Friends Podcast

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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers — loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.

“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”

The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on YouTube. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.

“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”

But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news — the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.

It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.

“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”

With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on YouTube, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do — even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.

While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.

But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks — who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago — the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.

Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king — the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.

I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”

And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”

Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”

It’s probably for the best — the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all — class issues,” he said on a recent episode. “That Raytheon decided they don’t hate gays or trans people — frankly, I don’t really give a shit what their take on that is..."

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I was one of the naive people who didn't even know you were together... Congratulations guys!

parkerkelley
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Congrats on the marriage! I am now wholeheartedly expecting Kyle to change his last name to "and Friends."

pacotaco
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I’m one of those supporters that was like “I didn’t even know they were together.”

It’s lovely to see you both so happy.

MsFlipped
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Now, this makes sense. For some strange reason, I thought Krystal was already married and I wondered how her husband felt about all the time she and Kyle spent together. Well, duh! It makes sense that they are indeed dating each other. Congratulations you two!

ShonnMorris
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My brother, I’ve been with you since 2012, I’ve grown up with you, I’ve learned a lot with you, I disagreed, I laughed my ass off and can’t be more happier for you two.
My love from Argentina and I hope you have a beautiful life together.

elponja
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I find it hilarious how we've all been meming since the beginning about how Kyle secretly loves Krystal and then they ended up dating and now they're married. Talk about a meme turning into real 😆. Happy for you guys, congratulations!

Sammmmmmmm
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I am glad I wasn't the only one who thought they were just really close friends. Congrats to them on their engagement!

yankiwi
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Congrats guys! I love the story arc here of Kyle roasting her on an episode of his show for her getting pranked on MSNBC - to now over 8 years later them being best friends and engaged. That’s real personal growth. I think it would be funny if they watched that clip and reacted together lol. But anyways I wish you both all the best!

JoeVonD
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When I first started watching secular talk and when he had segments and discussions with Krystal, I always thought they would make a great couple. 2 years later and now they are engaged, I'm really happy for them and wish for the best for their relationship and marriage 😊

nnguy
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I'm surprised you guys are pulling out all the stops I wasn't even 100% sure you guys were dating before this. Seems like you kept that private. But congrats all around.

kayokayo
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Been watching since I was 14 and I'm 22 now, grew up with ya Kyle and it nice to see you being happy. Wishing y'all nothing but the best 😁

NewtzT-V
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Soooo uhhh... anybody know what happened to Krystal's kids and husband?

taywimz
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Kyle secured the biggest W of all time. As a watcher since 2014 I gotta say I’m proud man! 🎉

cosmicgiraffe
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Never clicked a video so fast in my life lmfao

floralpatterns
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I legit knew they were gonna get together the first time I saw them onscreen. They had mad chemistry.

Congrats y'all.

rileyxsko
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This is like when you love two leading characters in a series or movie, and all you want is for them to be in love in real life. Had no clue you were even dating…very satisfying! Lol! Congratulations!!! 🎉🍾🎊

ashleyburge
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Congrats Krystal and Kyle! My two favorite political commentators. 🎉

AB-nkwv
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Congrats on your engagement my boy. I am the same age as Kyle and have been watching his show religiously since the beginning. So proud to see him grow up and develop as a man. Wish you two all the best.

drick
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I've been watching you guys since 2019, on rising, breaking points, secular talk and others. I had no idea you were even together. Congratulations on your engagement, very happy for you both.

Aipe-emuk
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As a man of the world who understands these things, I knew they were an item long before there was anything remotely official said. The way they interacted was so obvious.

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