Kyle Kulinski DEBATES Jordan Peterson On Trans Issues | Krystal Kyle & Friends

Kyle Kulinski interview Dr. Jordan Peterson on a wide range of issues including trans issues where the two have a heated debate

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[tinaify]

I was someone who was an insecure young teenager because I did not feel "girly" enough. In those days there was no such thing as transitioning, and I am so glad there wasn't. If there had been I probably would have started the process of transitioning from a female to a male. In the end, all it took was me accepting the fact that I was simply a "Tom-boy" in those early adolescent years who liked doing all the guy things, and was more comfortable in pants than I was in a dress. Today, I am a happily married women (to a man) with two grown sons. So with that said, I think what JP is trying to say is that we need to stop telling young "Tom-boy" girls that they are really boys in stuck in a girls body. And we need to stop brainwashing their young little minds into believing they need to start transiting to feel good about themselves. Instead maybe all they need to do is simply wait to see how things play out once they have grown out of that terrible insecure adolescent stage.

[shaunb]

Thank you Breaking Points for being willing and brave enough to allow this exchange without framing it for us.

[michaelriches]

I'm impressed that JP finally consolidated his argument as one where this medical intervention hurts more than it helps, medical ethicists please note

[Gobearfoot_]

Well done, fellas. We have to be able to have civil discussions with people that we don’t agree with.

[igloozoo]

I am gay and Jordan gets it when he says "LGBTQ is not a community" That is the truth. I am gay and I am not part of LGBTQ. I am an individual with my own beliefs and thoughts and it is often contrary to the beliefs of LGBTQ. I just happen to be gay.

[zrienkersh]

My daughter is 14 and wants top surgery and it’s maddening because she’s shown no signs of being trans or gay until very recently and it really feels like she’s hopping on a crazy trend and we’re having fights about it. It sucks for parents.

[mlittlitt]

That was a good conversation. Not a fan of Kyle but props to him for inviting Peterson

[karensmiles]

Do No Harm.. No the doctor doe Not have the right to mutilate.

[dorisbartel]

As a therapist who has worked with a client who regretted making and early decision about transitioning with surgery and hormones we do have to look at the harm in these procedures at young ages. They are life time decisions you can’t just change back. And it’s a big deal to take hormones and the effects on the body.

[jamiemoore]

I can speak first hand on this. My daughter was a socially awkward kid much like I was. When the “scene” phase hit schools I followed that trend and grew out of it. But tight pants and goofy hair didn’t have any long term adverse effects, besides some ribbing later on.
Now this transgender and identifying with your pronouns has hit the schools; and my daughter has followed suit. One day it was she was weirded out by her peers. Then she said she was pan and gained some more friends. When her first friend came over it was clear what was going on. These are just awkward kids looking to fit in. Now my daughter is talking about hormone blockers. Her mother is unquestioning and supports her. Meanwhile I’m absolutely terrified she has no idea about the full ramifications of what this means.
Luckily my daughter is smart enough to have reasonable conversations with me. After many talks she has came to the conclusion that she is lesbian.
But I’m afraid for other children where the parents are too afraid to talk to their children on these matters.

[anjairis]

Not sure why but I totally missed this and almost a year later now I stumbled on this video. I would like to hear more between these two dudes who I agree on most things with.

[jordanrosario]

I love that someone so educated can sit there and think about a question publicly then just be bold enough to say “I don’t know” and genuinely mean it. There’s no ego here

[ezduzit]

We need more real conversations like this. Thank you both

[NafeWilko]

Bro this sounds like David cross and Kermit having an interview

[sethvann]

Rarely have I seen Jordan this combative. You can absolutely tell he is passionate about saving kids.

[chinothepony]

We need more conversations like this, even if it gets heated yet still remains civil (no cutting into each other with personal insults or escalation past that). What we don't need is when someone tries to shut down the entire conversation by saying that the other's words lead to violence.

[ItsRyanStudios]

I'm an ex trans woman. Medically transitioned, and lived as a woman for almost 4 years.
I found it to only be a mental illness, and it should not be encouraged.
But I do believe adults should have the right to do what they want with their body, BUT with access to unbiased information to make an INFORMED decision.
We do not have that now. We have subjective and misrepresented information being peddled by the medical and academic communities, and both children and adults are making harmful decisions because they are told it is medically necessary.

[dframp]

I agree with Jordan that a celebrity can influence thousands of youngsters into doing something they will most likely regret at some point. The consequences are monumental. Body parts gone forever, sterilization, girls balding like men. Openly accepting this is agreeing to voluntary human torture.

[jcdenton]

How did I not catch this when it was new? Took over a year for the algorithm to show me this interview happened.

[aprilwilson]

What I love about Jordan Peterson is that he will think before he answers and he's not afraid to say he doesnt have an answer.