Israelis: What do you think of Haredim?

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[segevkrespi]

as an Israeli, I'm far more upset that their women go to work to support their households while their husbands study all day, that them serving in the IDF. I've visited NYC, met Haredim who have time to both work and study Torah.
It's unfair that me as a secular Israeli cannot get the same benefits as them while actually paving the taxes that goes to support their families.
that being said, i think they are good people and they do a lot of charity work and they care about maintaining Jewish traditions and faith

[gagamba]

Wow, Miriam is a straight talker. I think you won't find many mums upset their sons don't serve and think of the service of other mums' sons.

[abo_norah]

Beautiful videos, I hope to live in peace Greetings from Saudi Arabia

[marksimons]

There are Haredim all over the world, and to the best of my knowledge, most of them have regular work as well as studying. Only in Israel is there a stipend from the state, but in reality I understand that stipend is quite small.

There are always professions that are needed to sustain a Haredi community that can only be done by "their own". These often revolve around provision of glatt kosher food and ritual objects and managing communities.

[stroke_of_luck]

You getting people who are mostly easy going about them surprises me. I would have thought people would be angry about them, especially since they duck the draft. This was a very educational video.
I agree with the lady who thought that getting service has a cocomunital of providing service.

[koshersalaami]

What’s striking about this video is that though the question is fundamentally an attempt to provoke a bigoted response, a response that is as overly general as the question, not a single respondent takes the bait. Every response is measured, thoughtful, and everyone refuses to be intolerant. I can’t imagine anyone asking a group of Americans anything on the street and getting responses like these.

If you stopped non-Charedi American Jews and asked them this question you would get different responses even though Charedi here aren’t government supported and the existence of an all-volunteer military takes the military service question off the table. American Jews, even if the answers were uniformly as thoughtful, would be more critical of many practices. The difference, I think, is that in Israel there is among most of the population a stark divide between secular and religious. Secular Israeli Jews simply leave religion to the ultra-Orthodox and assume they’re making Jewishly sensible decisions. The American Jewish community is not that kind of secular and so ultimately a major source of disagreement is fundamentally on religious grounds. The emphasis on social justice is at its core religion-based and, particularly on questions involving gender roles, gender identity, and sexual preference, non-Charedi Jews here are extremely concerned about Charedi policies we view as intolerant being based on custom rather than on actual law. We don’t view intolerance based on custom as religiously justifiable. Secular Israeli Jews don’t have this question on their radar at all.

Let’s look at the recent Charedi concern about males being seated next to females on airlines. Secular Israeli Jews may write this off as religious concern but we’re not as inclined to view it that way. To us, this is not about religion at all but about turf. The fathers and grandfathers of the men making an issue about this sat next to women on airplanes. The idea that Charedi males should be uniquely susceptible to sexual temptation is ridiculous, self-indulgent, and oddly self-insulting, and the idea that women sitting in assigned seats on airplanes should somehow be responsible for this temptation is worse. In lives that are full of self-discipline, this form of self-discipline shouldn’t be all that difficult, nor should the responsibility for the lack of temptation reside with females or airline management.

Or we can look at the issue of the non-sexually-segregated portion of the Kotel. I don’t think those in the Knesset dealing with the Israeli government’s reneging on their promise to allow such a portion (completely out of sight from the other portions, which is where the proposed area is) understand why it’s such a big deal to American Jews because they believe that at its core this is a religious objection. No, it’s not. If you look at pictures over a century old of Charedim worshipping at the Kotel, the only separation between men and women worshipping was that one group was standing on a rug while the other wasn’t. That was the way they observed separation. There was no visual separation, not so much as a portable screen - at the end of the rug a male and female worshipper were photographed davening right next to each other. The law didn’t change. Charedim from over a century ago were not lax. This isn’t pure Halacha, it’s people pushing their weight around.

[JK-hjmn]

What a beautiful video. This gave me a whole new perspective on Israelis

[legolasflamier]

Now ask what haredim think of secular jews, I'm betting they won't be as nice.

[jayweiss]

I am chareidi and I believe that learning Torah is very important!

But that does not mean that people should be studying all day without working and milking money from other people's pockets. I don't think that's what god wants and I don't believe the rabbi's will tell you to do. They'll say ig you can afford it then it's great, if not then get a job.
Now for those that are learning I do believe that they are holding up the world. But if someone is not then they should do some type of שירות for the country. It doesn't have to be fighting in combat (which it's very hard to stay religious) it can be any sort of service....
Just my opinion😊

[dogbert]

One law for all citizens.
0 caveats.
0 positive or negative discrimination.

[FutureofGoodnessKindness]

I'm Haredi from a Haredi city near Jerusalem and you would be surprised at how many of us actually work hard just like the rest of humanity to support our family and pay taxes just like any other citizen.
Most of us adopt progressive and modern trends but at the same time we value the importance of tradition and most importantly we support and accept the choice of reservation even if we choose to be more modern ourselves.
In the secular community it's the opposite, they support people to be more outwardly outrageous even if they themselves aren't.

[zhouwu]

I love how nuanced all the answers are.

[blackhat]

Ask Charedim what they think of chiloni?

[estatuadechozo]

"What do you think about (insert any group of troublesome people)?

Israelis: "We are all human".

[dudelehhh]

One of the main issues with Chareidim going to the army, is that the army makes issues for them to keep their religion there

[mohamedshibli]

As an arab live in Israel i like them and respect them and respect their religion and idc if they join the adf or not and i dont think the army should be forced on anyone

[Linda]

We are all Jews and should be unified.

[ascaloncrusader]

I am Christian but the a Jewish people are my brothers and I love them. They affirm my faith in Christ.

[Jayla-djgj]

I would imagine most of them would be unfit for combat. Not everybody is meant to be a soldier.

[sabcam]

You should have started by explaining what is Haredim