Kia EV9 GT-Line 1000 km challenge

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[bond_andrew]

Very interesting result. I have EV9 from 02.01.2024. I live in Finland (capital area). We had the coldest January in the past 8 years. I did 2400 km so far. Yesterday it was -2 c. I was driving from Helsinki to Turku (160 km) with the speed of 110 km/h. It was very windy (7 m/s head and side winds). Average consumption was 29 kWh/100km.

During days when it is +2 or more, I'm getting 23-25 kWh/100km consumption. I drive 70% highway with the speed of 90-100 km/h (my standard commute).

The car I have is EV9 GT-Line 6 seater, matt blue.

When I use navigation to set a charging point (not via POI), battery pre-conditioning kicks in automatically. Highest value was 5.7 kWh for the pre-conditioning.

I'm not sure why my results are so drastically different from yours, Bjorn. There were several software OTA updates during January.

All in all, after 2400 km driven in winter (and January being coldest in 8 years), two long leg trips, my average all-time consumption is 29.7 kWh/100 km. That is a very good result for a 2.7 tons car.

[michaelmeier]

A Rivian test would really be something special.

[bwwr]

@Bjorn Re slipstreaming, at the distance you briefly drove behind the bus (at 10:30) the turbulent airflows and air pressure variations caused by the bus probably caused you to have increased air drag compared to undisturbed airflow (ie. you increased the consumption). You'd be able to leverage drafting at about one car length but that would be very dangerous driving. I don't know about the wind so yO may be wrong. Please correct me if you know otherwise.

[s.kxx]

I feel Like I know Norway like no other after watching all of BN videos !

[bellumCretatus]

33:54 same for Tesla, if you navigate to Ionity (voice/search) -> no preheating. You have to use the charging station screen and select it there for preheating.

[MrStolarsky]

I like the rant on the in-car navigation and preheating. I hope Google/Apple integrate with cars sooner and we can foget about KIA and other manufacturers writing software. They are not a software company and it SHOWS!

[FoxInClogs]

Hi Bjorn, strange that the EV9 only preconditions when you navigate to a POI. This sounds like the Ioniq 5 OTA update from last spring.
I've just gone out and tested it in my car to be sure - with autumn update it preconditions if you just navigate to a charger via destination lookup. (Once you're within 30 mins ETA, I believe.)
The Ioniq still doesn't have the option to manually force preconditioning, which the EV9 does have. Hopefully it's coming soon, so that I can precondition while using Waze to navigate.

[gregp.]

In North America, this is a “mid-size”SUV, not monstrosity as some other commenter described it. Chevy Tahoe, GMC Yukon, Cadillac Escalade, they are considered the “full size” SUVs.
Minivans, like the Honda Odyssey or Toyota Sienna, are basically the same size as this EV9, maybe even a bit bigger.

[Eric_Canned_Tuna]

I am planning a road trip to the Netherlands from København this May, (2024) and the distance will be about 900 km give or take. I used ABRP to plot my journey, including charging stops but I was worried that the planner would not factor in the lower battery efficiency at higher speeds, so I have been looking for someone to provide real world experience at long distance road trips, with the EV9.

I found this awesome clip! Thanks Bjørn!

[EUC-lid]

The ‘Something’ afoot at the CircleK is DCFCs? Excellent!

[vincent]

Your electricity bill must be huge Bjorn. You are even charging tanks now. I recently saw an EV9 here in the Netherlands. It doesn't fit in lots at the parking areas.

[Stewiedude]

Wow that's impressive given the temperatures and the size of the EV9

[MortenB]

Thanks for great video about the beast-from-the-east. With great easter eggs, like nine-nine-nine and the best ever massage explanation that you do not get anywhere else !

[shrobert]

😂 same charging speed as the truck as expected but I didn't expect same consumption 😂

[commanderroddi]

Charge curve reminds me of old good charge curve on etron (though that only went to 150ish, but held that for EVER! This holds near 200 deep into the pack!

I own Ioniq 5 and the pre-heating or pre-conditioning is sketching. The fact you can manually do it on this car is Nice. I may be switdching to one of these because it a bigger car and I need the cargo room (right now I hae a Mitsubishi Outlander plug-in hybrid, and Ioniq 5 since for most times when I need to carry my family around I need at least 6 seats, sometimes 7 would be better but I can live with 6; the cargo room is also low, and often I need to take stuff to post office and on Ioniq 5 I had to make 2 or sometimes more trips a day and that was a huge waste of time. So having hybrid to drive with mostly battery for short range is nice, but if I go anywhere more than 20 miles (maybe 30 miles) I need to use gasoline, and that's fine, but having EV9 would allow me to trade in 2 cars for one... Though I do love that Ioniq 5... I would have prefered EV9 (I like that interior better, but the cargo room was better on Ioniq and I was able to find one nicely speced near me, so that was it). I could have both Ioniq 5 & EV9, but I'm at the point where I may actually need something bigger than even the Outlander or EV9 for work, and I may get a truck for work and ligt off-roading? I was hoping Jeep would release their 4Xe version of the gladiator soon, but that doesn't look like a possibility. Rivian is always nice and Lightning would be too because chepaer, and I would be able to get away with lowest trim with smaller battery. So, yeah. There is also the new ford T3 and the silverado and RAM trucks which could be nice (though I am thinking maybe when T3 coumes out, We may be able to get a work lightning for fairly cheap). TTHough I'd prefer something like a Jeep Gladiator 4Xe (and I know I'll get hate for that, but I like that truck.. Just no PHEV version of it yet... I had PHEV version of Wranger and that powertrain was GREAT and I got a good 25 miles battery only, so I Rarely used gas on that for most daily driving!)

ABC: Always be Chasing buses (drafting) :)

[EPicurux]

I like having manual pre-heating option
I like to think my "HI" is better than "AI", at least for now

[istvankucsera]

I really appreciate Bjorn's work, I love his videos and I think his tests are done with maximum professionalism. I don't think that the EV9 data is not correct. I don't think there will be a significant change in the summer with this measurement method. The method used is perfect for comparing different EVs. But it is not suitable for drawing conclusions about everyday usability. If you draw conclusions from the test, the car is useless. In the meantime, you can read the opinions of countless real owners in everyday use on various forums. If you read them, you'll mostly find letters from happy owners complaining about various early software problems, but all of them find the consumption manageable. So I think what this test shows is that a car of this shape has a drastically higher fuel consumption than most cars with a 130km fuel consumption, but a manageable 110km fuel consumption. Much higher consumption change between 110 and 130 than with other cars. But is the average speed of 130 km the typical speed? I often travel 1000-1500 km but I'd rather have an average speed of 100 than 110 and especially not 130.

[The_Observer]

My guess prior to the trip was ETA 10:22.
Spot on if you ask me 🏆😎

[ronaldmelia]

If i recall on my EV6 you have to select the charger as a charge stop and not simply navigate to.

[Draconis]

Cat tapping 🤣 I was hoping for more efficiency, but it is a big vehicle. Not bad all things considered.