‘If you care about democracy, you’re NOT happy with this case’ – Lionel Shriver | SpectatorTV

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This is an extremely strange moment for American democracy. Polls suggest that independent voters – the people who decide American elections – will not vote for a man who is a convicted felon. But now Donald Trump, currently the favourite to win re-election in November, has been found guilty, on 34 counts, of falsifying business records – will this make him more popular or less?

Freddy Gray speaks to Lionel Shriver.

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What is your reaction to Donald Trump's conviction?

SpectatorTV
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Banana Republic. How far the US has fallen.

erniesbiscuits
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New York is no longer a serious place. This trial was an embarrassing sham.

BigBenn
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The stupidity of people who believe this is justice is alarming.

Marktb
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I can’t imagine what more could be done to destroy our election legitimacy.

jlable
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I haven't voted in over a decade (i dislike both parties in the US), but I'll vote for Trump this time because of this case.

bobsansmal
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I will walk thru broken glass to vote for him . I was a lifelong Democrat.

Happyharold
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This whole thing is sick. Who the hell cares that someone who worked for Trump wrote "legal expense" down on his business records instead of "payment to porn star." This man was convicted because "legal expense" was written on a form, that's it, and because it was written 34 times, it's 34 counts. It's completely absurd. Where is the victim in this so-called "crime"? Who was harmed by this? And this victimless "crime" is a misdemeanour at best in New York and past the statute of limitations, but just so they could find some way, any way, to charge this man, they decided he wrote down "legal expense" to conceal another crime. What crime? Don't know.
But he maybe, possibly wanted to commit some kind of crime... If that's how the legal system works, then any one of us could be put in jail at any time for a mistake on our taxes if the government decides we made the mistake on purpose because we were planning to commit some other crime we never actually committed but were maybe thinking about committing. In other words, they can put any one of us in jail anytime they feel like it. It's the Soviet Union.

The Democrats have become Captain Ahab and Trump is their big orange whale. They don't care if they have to sink the whole country and the justice system and democracy itself as long as they get their whale. They have become the evil they think they are fighting against. They are the threat to democracy, they are the dictators, they are the one's who will break every law and norm to stay in office when the people want them gone. Trump may have threatened to lock up his political opponent, and the Democrats called him a dictator for that, but he never made a single move to actually do it. The Democrats are doing it. Actions speak louder than words.

bobsassistant
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Until now, I didn't get too invested in the US election. As of now, I'm all in for TRUMP!

erickeane
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We denounce and put put sanctions on countries that do this. We have lost the moral ground - we are behaving like a Banana Republic.

GSauce
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I hate the "no one's above the law" shite coming from the refund crowd. We have criminals let out too easily, everywhere, all the time, but they'll change the laws to be able to charge trump.

amandakish
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I love this lady’s commentary especially at the end, “The Democrats feel, the ends justify the means even if it destroys the rule of law and this country.”

PhlangDeep-
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Greetings from the Banana Republic of America (formerly the United States.) #Trump2024

robertanderson
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This Democrat leaning lady has a lot of sense and integrity. There must be others.

BenWorld
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American woman, registered Independent, didn't and won't vote for Trump. My opinion of him hasn't changed as a result of this case, but my opinion of the Democratic party, our government, legal system and media has soured markedly.

sarasamson
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Each time this BS has happened, Trump goes up in the polls and donations
The People see the injustice
President Trump Peace & Prosperity
Cheers from Chile 🇨🇱🇺🇲

goa
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The odds are shortening for Trump after the verdict according to betting sites. Already signs this trial has backfired.

stacyliddell
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Sound's disgusting, America is sadly messed up

XX-wdxn
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The most instructive aspect of this case, is how little those prosecuting it care about how it looks to the outside world.

borderlands
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This is the kind of thing Putin does to his opponents.

TheLydiaR