Valve Fixes Wayland Governance Overnight!

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Wayland protocol governance has been a mess for the entire life of the project but 1 day with Valve developers trying to fix things and everything just changes immediately

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well, we jokingly say "valve plz fix" to things valve isn't responsible for all the time. it's just that this time they actually did 🙃

wagyourtai
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Linus was right. Valve was going to be the hero that fixed Linux userspace

FinaISpartan
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Valve: Does nothing...
Valves 5 min later: Why dont we revolutionaze the linux world?

Wkaelx
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Wait, you're telling me they are able to take decisions QUICKLY?

MagnaP
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Valve is the uncle teaching Wayland how to grow up.

Gregorius
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"please refrain from jumping in"
oh my opensource just bubbled at seeing that. especially since the user actually provided an idea for positive change. one echoed by many contribs in w-p.
Well deserved clown react!

infinitivez
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I was talking to colleagues few years ago that if someone can possibly ever fix Wayland governance, it’s gotta be either Valve or System 76.

tacoeater
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23:30 If you use Wayland, you are part of the Wayland community. Wayland would be nothing if no one used it.

vidal
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23:05 Reminds me of a classic moment where a senator said: "parliament is not a place for discussions". Basically admitting that they grease their hands behind the scenes and publicly only put on political theatre.

PredatoryQQmber
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"experimental" is such an important thing though. You cannot design a good abstraction if you can't deprecate and remove earlier ideas when they turn out bad later on.

mskiptr
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I imagine their background work with the steam link and now steam deck probably frustrated the devs how annoying it was to mess with wayland compared to X11, despite being the "newer & better" protocol.

creeperbomb
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Valve has a lot of experience in these types of issues. There own structure is so open, they must have similar processes in place to get things done.

NdxtremePro
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Valve could easily pay a handful of developers to fork the project; essentially do a hostile takeover and every modern desktop distribution would be happily defaulting to it within 6 months.

desktorp
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22:30 Conway's Law, probably. Frog protocols disrupted and exposed the organization's dysfunction by bypassing the organization entirely and just putting something out there. Therefore the organization changes and the Wayland protocols system is improved.

TatharNuar
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GNOME developers are shivering right now

toxiccan
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This should've happened YEARS ago. I'm glad it's happening now, and things can actually move at faster than a drip at a time.

JessicaFEREM
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I think Valve is fixing this because they are used to this kind of chaos. If any company knows about dead projects is Valve

IamKAyrox
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"this is a community wide discussion, so please refrain from randomly jumping in"
wait what? isnt he part of the comunity? inst that the whole point?

i never guessed i would agree with someone who says:
"who is community?"

but i do...

igorgiuseppe
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Thank god someone put some order on protocols, maybe we'll see some progress in the next 2 decades

Tentri
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All I know about Wayland is that, after trying several times before, I've finally being able to switch to using a Wayland compositor this year (Hyprland, which is great by the way). 16 years after Waylands first release. If it takes you 16 years to produce a usable piece of software, *something* isn't right there...

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