Doctor of Law on Gödel' s constitutional Loophole | Enrique Guerra - Pujol, JD

Links to papers mentioned in this video:

1. Kurt Godel's "Declaration of Intention/Certificate of Arrival" (1940).

2. A paper by Valeria Zahoransky & Christoph Benzmuller titled "Modelling the US Constitution to establish constitutional dictatorship" (2019), which attempts to model/formalize my reasoning.

(00:00) - What's it all about
(00:46) - Why study logic as a lawyer ?
(04:26) - How our discussion will work
(07:20) - How Gödel died and refrigerator paranoia
(09:20) - Is constitution a formal system ?
(12:26) - Is constitution consistent ?
(15:00) - Which statement causes problems in the Loophole ?
(16:16) - Examples of constitutional "failures" from history
(20:03) - How practical is the Loophole ?
(24:42) - Did Gödel believe in his discovery ?
(28:51) - Other flaws in the constitution
(33:46) - The untouchable clauses
(47:10) - Self- reference in the constitution
(53:15) - Is Gödel's proof constructive ?
(56:36) - Concluding words

#gödel

[irinaaislinn]

Great interview
I wish more people would realize what important of a subject this is - especially these days

[kovko]

Given the context of when Godel's Loophole came out in 1947, which is shortly after WWII and the death of the 4-term presidency of FDR, I believe that it has to do with the line of succession. The then-upcoming 22nd Amendment that passed in 1951 attempted to address part of that concern, but more directly with term limits. However, even though that amendment limited the number of terms that a President could be elected, it itself has a loophole since the President can technically always stay in power by running as VP, and the President resigns or acts as a puppet. That way, the person in question only ever gets elected twice, but can theoretically stay in power for the remainder of their lives.

This loophole existed prior to the 22nd Amendment, and it also applies to all positions within the line of succession, including the Speaker of the House--the second in line. With the Speaker of the House position, it's technically even simpler. One only needs to win a single Congressional district instead of an entire national election, and the majority party will likely ascend the former President to the position of Speaker of the House. The major caveat here is that there will need to be a super majority of a single party with a "hive mind" mentality controlling both the House and the Executive Branch.

And _that's_ where Article 5 comes in to amend the constitution and make this loophole even easier for the majority party to stay in power with a dictator at the helm for life. In order to do this, you would need control of both chambers of Congress, and they'll need to all be in agreement along with a super majority of the state legislatures, too. This may sound far-fetched, but again, think of the time of Godel and McCarthyism with the Red scare. That national sentiment made it very possible back in Godel's time, albeit still unlikely in the grand scheme of things. But, with such events, and with a dedicated group having a singular goal of creating that loophole, it would have been possible.

Also, I've determined that this guy you're interviewing is a leftist Ideologue, and his views are skewed (read: not objective).

[Apocalymon]

oh, a new math channel to follow. Good content my dude 👍

[MeanBeanComedy]

"Before Donald Trump?"

Did he force thru an ammendment I missed?

[morgengabe]

If i had tk guess, Godel's problem would be more generic than that. Legal systems, by their finity, are always incomplete or applied inconsitently.
What we need are protocols.

[CaptaineBluntschli]

How can you study a thinker for years and not know how to correctly pronounce his name…