Critical Based Theory #2 | Who Are the Bourgeoisie?

In episode 2, Thomas explains the Marxist definition of the bourgeoisie and who they actually are in the present day.

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[Torvar]

I told a commie that Htlr used bourgeois to describe his enemies over 130 times in his book.
They responded with, "That's our word!"

[Spazzboy]

So, in my layman understanding, it sounds like this:
Bourgeoisie: "So we fight for the workers, because we need workers to work for us"
Workers: "So how are you fighting for us?"
B: "We're going to import millions more workers, because we need workers to fight for us"
W: "How does that help us?"
B: "...'Help' you?"
Welcome to Marxism

[billdestroyerofworlds]

That moment when Lotus Eaters use actual Marxist theory to blow out leftists. Highly impressive.

[tutoredtoday]

The year is 2021 thirty years after the fall of the soviet union and I'm listening to theoretical Marxist socialist theory because it is very relevant to today's politics in western civilization.

[tiredman]

There's an even bigger contradiction in the "Workers State". As soon as the "workers" or some of them, become managers of Politburo members, they cease to be workers, or poor. That's why the soviet old guard were the most conservative power base of the late 20th Century.

[Iangenker]

Critical based theory sounds like a book that Carl needs to write.

[DarthWillSmith]

You're getting dangerously close to the point there, buddy. Hope the elves don't shut it down.

[jl]

I love the idea of trying to cut through the left by formulating an argument on their terms, but you need a summary section, because a lot of this stuff is real thick. I think I will try to summarize the argument: (Parenthesis represent my person thoughts on each point of argument.

1. Marx believes that people's actions are formulated from their conditions, rather than people's beliefs/principles influencing their actions. (This idea is limited, while it is true that people are granted different choices based on conditions, it is their beliefs/principles that determine which they choose from the options.)
2. Marx believes that evaluation of goods are fixed and companies are incentivized to underpay as much as possible to increase their profits. (Economically, the reason we engage in exchanges of labor and materials is because of different evaluations of goods, companies evaluate your labor higher than the money they have and vice versa)
3. Due to 1 & 2, Marx notes the bourgeoise were a revolutionary force that changed the "system" to produce a new "system" that allowed for the maximization of their profit. (Anyone observing the move from Feudal Economies to Market Economies would also note this. The Capitalist at one point had to be revolutionary)
4. Marx dictates however that the Capital Bourgeoise is doomed to fail, making note that the proletariat will begin another revolution because the bourgeoise mistreats them, just as every other previous dominant class. (This doomed to fail due to contradiction reality only works if you accept Marx's understanding of economics, but ultimately, he does come up with different way to explain why this may not happen to cover his ass)
5. Due to 3 and 4, Marx asserts that the Capital Bourgeoise is smart and in fact revolutionary, so as such they will engineer constant never-ending pointless revolutions in order to prevent the proletariat from doing so; Every time the proletariat gets close to revolting, a new revolution in the bourgeoise space will occur to prevent a "true" revolution. (The issue with this is determining what separates a fake revolution from a real one. I agree that the bourgeoise are willing to induce controlled revolutions to prevent negative change, but the "true" one is therefore indeterminate)
6. Applying 5, we can see real life examples of this, wherein the bourgeoise of progressive tech giants work to constantly change how people communicate and countries constantly import disparate cultures, which prevents any chance of whatever the true revolution is. (This means, in my opinion, that the "true" revolution is actually not the change anything at all. That is the only thing that will defeat the bourgeoise.)

So to summarize further:

Marx would support a conservative revolution wherein we stop the bourgeoise's fake evil revolutions by preventing them from changing things around.

[sadwingsraging]

"What sometimes goes amiss in Marxist scholarship, , , "
Stop right there! I think I see where the problem is.

[themetroidprime]

Do you feel in charge, *Mr. Rothschild* ?

[gyromurphy]

Critical Based Theory is an amazing term.

[sadwingsraging]

Can we start a scholarly study called _Critical Marxist Theory_ and stuff the textbook with memes? Seriously, , , that is all you need to refute Marxism is just plain simple memes.

[komisossoutsidi]

Lord Bogdanoff COVID-19 has been a stunning success.

[Avenus]

Unbelievable how someone whose attitudes were so relentlessly false could cause so much misery. But it's about aggrandizing humanity's worst aspects so of course it attracts the worst in humanity.

[Longshanks]

Hitchens often says that it’s impossible to truly understand Marxism without first having been one yourself and Thomas is proving that again and again with his incisive insights into the inner workings of the ideology.

[petersteenkamp]

Marx's labor theory of value is wrong. It wrongly implies that labor productivity is static. Suppose a shoemaker, using simple tools, is capable of producing 2 shoes per hour. Then an investor comes along and proposes to buy a machine for the shoemaker that allows the shoemaker to produce 10 shoes per hour, but the investor gets to keep half of those shoes. This is a deal that benefits both: the shoemaker gets 5 shoes instead of 2 per worked hour, and the investor also gets 5 shoes per worked hour.

[doyoubinoame]

What a great series. It nails modern political problems which are often hard to communicate and pinpoint really well by giving enough political and historical context to make things digestible

[MizantropMan]

The only things controlling me are my own fears and self-doubt.

Granted, they were planted and nurtured by over a decade I've been stuck in the education system, but still.

[scurvydog]

Marx might have been partially correct in that there is an inevitable overthrow of capital but not for the reason he think. Rather than because of any materialistic cause the overthrow comes because Marx allows the envious to see themselves as virtuous thereby justified in the violence required to steal from others because men of vice will always out number men of virtue when vice can be justified. He also neglects to realize that while the overthrow may become inevitable envy is not a workable system and will inevitably either adopt capitalist tendencies with high gov control to become dictatorial or will lead to mass starvation from the sudden decrease in production leading to repeated revolution until the decreased population can survive on the decreased production or enough of the population fears gov force more that starvation and even then it is not stable.

[Duranous.]

Big tech got big not under a free market but one where they enjoyed privileges over other companies from the government and one where they colluded in a cartel like fashion to crush competition.