Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door Remake VIVIAN TRANS?

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[cocheeseknox]

The Italian translation of the original also has Vivian say “I know I am a real woman.”

[glizzy.man]

the italian translation actually keeps her gender identity and her love interest for mario

[Lacucarachadefuego]

Vivian is Trans in paper Mario?!? Next thing you’re gonna tell me is that Birdo has been trans for the last 35 years….

[rukifellth]

The big question is:
How does gender even work for a shadow?
If gender for a shadow is a matter of self identification, that makes Beldam even more of a scumbag since if so, shadows can be whatever.
Or am I overthinking a Mario species? XD

[SpecRose]

The thing with the original japanese version is that Vivian refers to herself as female, when other characters and sources refer to her as male, for..a few reasons. Beldam is always meant to be just an abusive bigot and a bully to Vivian, while others such as the original jp Tattle dialogue may come from less understanding of trans 20 years ago.

The remake now adjusts some things to a more accurate translation and adding onto it making it more clear with having a better understanding of it all now.

[cinnamoone]

in retrospect, the new translation is actually much closer to the original ITALIAN translation, where she specifically comments that she feels like a woman and is proud of it, despite the persecution of her sisters. so this isn't new, just finally being spread globally.

[Stone_Yoshi_]

*How are shadows even transparent? We can clearly see them.*

[CRMSONACE]

"In the original Gamecube version"
I think you mean "In the English and German gamecube versions".

[Buzzblade]

Finally, Vivian and Madeline can recreate that one handshake meme

[Xenomnipotent]

A line in the Japanese script;
"それに　じつは　アタイ・・・
体は　オトコのコだけど
ココロは　カワイイ　オンナのコなの"

"The thing is... I...
I have a boy's body, but my heart is a cute girl's!"

(using feminine first person pronouns)

[NodRider]

Fans of the original game already knew this, even though it was never mentioned in game itself in the US. Other regions still touched on it, and it's not new controversial news. It was actually pretty progressive for the time

[fraidybat]

“There’s a big controversy right now”

No, there isn’t. There’s the people who understand the fact that this is canonically more accurate to the original as well as impactful for Vivian’s character, and the people who are afraid of change and anything different from them.

[sophieamandaleitontoomey]

I don’t really see what the big deal is for the people complaining. It’s not like this confirmation changes the character journey of Vivian. She’s still the underdog and black sheep of her family, is constantly bullied and belittled by her older sister, isn’t really as down with the evil plans as they are, and ultimately decides to join Mario’s party because of his kindness to her when he had no name or body. And her decision to come back after she learns the truth about him still works.

Like nothing about the character redemption has changed. The character still has the same journey. She’s still the same lovable party member she was in 2004. What’s the big deal?

[Cheese-Slime-Sheriff]

This actually isn’t new… it’s just the original Japanese TRANSlation, it was censored by most other countries though

[AeonKnigh]

Here's the thing. It's not "new dialog." It's just a correct translation

[fxvenny]

For Hooktail they also changed Cricket to frog if I’m not wrong. I mean smart move who gets poisoned eating crickets

[Cubal]

For a bit of details, the french version of Beldam in TTYD (gamecube) literally says "What are you talking about ?? You are a BOY." (boy us in red btw.) After Vivian says "Three shadow sisters !".

[AshleyPerson-bm]

Vivian, Birdo, Madeline and Bridget all come from some of my favourite games for definitely no reason at all nuh uh nope nuh (transfemme egg panic intensifies…)

[Fun.y]

"Oh yeah i like-a train choo choo"

[mcdjdeath]

In my opinion this is a rare moment of uncensorship