Indonesian migrant workers fall prey to false ‘spiritual leader’ scams

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Several Indonesians have been left penniless by so-called shamans who claim they can magically multiply money. Some alleged scammers have reportedly killed victims who have asked for their money back after realising they’ve been robbed. Indonesian police have arrested a trio who face the death penalty if found guilty of scamming and murder.

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I see, so in Indonesia pension fund managers are referred to as shamans. Interesting.

billyoldman
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"promised her money with magic"

Ok, yep, that's where I stop taking it seriously.

theincrediblefella
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These scams must be reported. It has caused so much damage to other people.

sophiaisabelle
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Nevertheless many people had explain that if only the shaman could multiple money, first he would made his own family very rich. no need promote his skill to seeking customers...😢

nikolas_
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The fact that they believe someone can multiply money using magic makes me unable to feel any pity towards them

JoSan
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Multiplying money is materialistic not spiritual. Use common sense folks 😐

sukhkaur
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It's a miracle they can live this long.

nuomitang
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Honestly im shocked how come people still fell to this scheme where in 2018 where Dimas Kanjeng, notorious shaman that also promised same thing found murdered his own followers who asked for their promised money

HowToChangeName
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Because Indonesians are predominantly religious, this type of scam is no surprise to me.
I am Indonesian btw, but not religious.

arusirham
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Yet this is the woman who as a mother will be guiding the mental, spiritual, emotional and financial lives of the THREE children more disaster lives in Indonesia...

edwardharley
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Her friend prob gets a cut from fooling their friend into this scam. Sad but true. Should make it illegal to introduce scam to anyone.

FF_AlohaEdition
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slowly but surely, the development that is right on target will educate its people to be more rational. hopefully it can be achieved. 🙏

watanglipuhadjar
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Spiritual or religious person, yet intentionally let her greed for wealth to rule over her head so she doesn't care about earning money honestly and want to multiply her money through evil ways. Karma bites her greedy back, so no pity for her. Majority of the world are poor or middle to lower class, yet not all of them want to earn money through evil&dishonest ways like jinxes. Because you let greed rules your heart, and you want to cheat instead of working sincerely for your money, you reap the bad fruit of your intention&deeds. Be thankful you're not murdered by that shaman- repent and start working to earn money honestly.

goldencheesesteak
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This is a problem that easy to prevent if you think for a minute

ranggayogiswara
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It is really not that hard to manipulate (many or most) Indonesians using religion and spirituality. Happens all the time, even now. And let's see what cards the 2024 presidential election will bring out to the table.

bluesblabber
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We're talking about how fake spiritual scammers are a problem in Indonesia, how is China related to thjs in any way? And seriously, the video doesn't even mention China

comradeokita
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10% poverty rate is made by Indonesian government. The actual rate according to World Bank standard is 40%. If you look at the proportion of people got free healthcare insurance from Government (BPJS-PBI) is about 100 million people (40% of the population) so the 40% estimated by World Bank is an accurate number.

PissMenn
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"Fake" spiritual shaman? Is there even a "real" one to begin with?

nasgothus
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People are so harsh to judge others because of a difference in culture or etc. how is a belief in magic or other such spiritual beliefs different than Christianity, where Christians believe Jesus was resurrected after death? I’m not trying to demean anybody’s beliefs, just that things can sound ridiculous to us, I also think it sounds ridiculous, but that shouldn’t stop us from feeling sympathy to those who have suffered. Those who get tricked by cults or other such organizations often have strong reasons that draw them into something like that in the first place, you may think you would never fall victim to anything so ridiculous, but you may be surprised.

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Indonesia 🇮🇩 also claims the South China Sea, together with China 🇨🇳, Malaysia 🇲🇾, Philippines 🇵🇭, Brunei 🇧🇳 and Vietnam 🇻🇳. This is an issue to be worked out by claimants, foreign powers shouldn't get involved don't you think? Especially the world's largest exporter of weapons

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