Thorfinn Meets Canute to Negotiate - Thorfinn VS King Canute

Anime: Vinland Saga
Season 4 Episode 22
Thorfinn and Einar negotiating with King Canute for Ketil farm. Thorfin say sorry for Canute face scar and the king say sorry for Askeladd's death.
#Thorfinn #Canute #VinlandSaga

[YoCelKreSunt]

I actually loved how they spoke equal to equal. Thorfinn never addressed him as Your Majesty neither did Knut treat him as just a slave/nobody defying authority and actually engaging in a conversation. No wonder they impress each other.

[hfar_in_the_sky]

You know what the sad thing is? In real life, Canute actually did do the whole "I will stop the waves now" demonstration. In the real life example though, the reason was that one of his vassals told Cannute that he now had total control over the oceans, and Canute was like "Idiot. If I actually had total control over the ocean, I could stop the waves. I am just a man. An important man, but just a man all the same."

But as the years went by, Cannute instead became something of a meme where people went "Hur hur! Dumb king thought he could control the waves!" and Cannute's original message sailed completely over most people's heads. Probably in part because most kings after Cannute didn't like being reminded that in the end they were only human

[warmmafura]

The awkward feeling of Einar between these 2 is actually a genius piece of the puzzle
Royalty, commoner and warrior in one conversation

[baconian_road_construction]

A Farmer, Warrior, and a King walk into a bar...

[irinafms]

The part where canute tries to demonstrate he may be able to stop the waves and then admitting he obviously can't, he's powerless to do so bc he's just a man was so impactful, it gave me chills and kinda took my breath away. The animation, the dialogue, voice acting, the color palette, the light and the music EVERYTHING is just so cheff's kiss. This season has consolidated Vinlad Saga as one of my top 3 seinen, can't get enough of it

[Hiurai]

It's great that Vinland Saga's author brought Einar into this conversation as well. Thorfinn for example is the son of one of the strongest, if not the strongest (in this anime), viking, so he's a capable warrior. Canute was born into royal family, so he actually never had to suffer the way commoners did/do. Both of them were very lucky about the way they were born into this world. Einar on the other hand is just a simple farmer, whose village was burned down and whose family was killed. He portrays every commoner of this anime, who is suffering because of war. Bringing his perspective and thoughts into this whole conversation is really something else. Vinland saga is by far one of the best anime I've ever watched and read (manga), maybe even the best.

[biharimark]

2:41 Canute really did became similar to his father. He even did the same pose as his father did at the summet.

[gantashiro]

I loved how both Thorfinn and Canute's characters have developed, and their point of view have pretty much flipped to the other through their experiences in the four year timeskip. Thorfinn who knew nothing but drawing his daggers and causing bloodshed for his goal of revenge and Canute who was a hopeful boy who wanted to create a paradise and now Thorfinn has become the pacifist who wants nothing to do with violence while Canute has become a king who's hardened his heart to the point where he won't hesitate to kill anyone and everyone as long as it reaches him closer to fulfilling his ambitions. Two masterfully written characters and how they've now come face to face. I can't wait for the next episode and see how this confrontation concludes!

[wymg]

I love how he did all that in attempt to control the waves and making even the viewer believes "wait is he actually bout to be Jesus" and then after a few moment, tells them how he is actually powerless to do so, bringing us a reminder that this show aint supernatural. While there might be crazy and exaggerated physical moments, it is still grounded and people are still mortal creatures under the mercy of nature.

[ricardoh]

In the manga his face was so beat up it was unrecognizable

[kummer]

Thorfinn negotiated peace by force and wits. He took all the punches, he got outnumbered but he brought himself entirely. He negotiated peace as a free man. He held Einar back because HE understood his anger but wanted to show Canute that obedience is earned with respect. Einar obeyed him giving up his JUSTIFIED anger against Canute.

THIS IS HOW YOU DEVELOP Characters. Who wrote this knows what he/she is doing. This quality IS too high.

[remn]

ok but can we just acknowledge that this man tanked 100 punches from an absolute giant of a dude and then had a normal conversation afterwards

[BenniBoltz]

2:44 I love how they incorporated that one story of King Canute trying to stop the ocean waves into this scene, especially with how they gave it actual meaning to the story with his explanation of why he can't actually stop the waves

[Ganeshkumar-toxw]

I can't say for sure but I think thorfinn having long hair and canute having short hair as opposed to their last meeting symbolizes the inversion of their personality and beliefs.

[gantashiro]

I love how even though everything Canute is saying pisses off Einar, what Thorfinn is seeing infront of him has created a growing admiration and respect for Canute calling him incredible for having this vision of saving the vikings that never crossed Thorfinn's mind. I'm having flashbacks of Fate/Zero when Rider, Gilgamesh, and Saber had that banquet discussing their different POV's of what a king should be

[MinscS]

Thorfinn Ep22: Canute is an incredible man.
Canute Ep23: Thorfinn is a beautiful man.

[milotura]

best part...IRL Great King Canute actually did this speech to his army.

[vito]

O:36 when he realises exactly who thorfinn is, the look on his face was priceless!! Especially because you rarely see his eyes throughout the series or that type of expression from him.

[lankypasture]

Ah yes the famous image of canute facing the sea. Would've been beautiful if he was sitting in his chair, but still really awesome to see!

[ttqtqt]

Canute speech gave me chills. We are Vikings..