Ex Jmod Speaks On The Hero Pass - Drama Update

What Are Your Thoughts On This?

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[InitYeah]

This video was recorded and uploaded before the post earlier, so some information might be slightly out dated. However still worth posting :)
(also I totally called what jagex would do lol)

[AliInvestigation]

10k likes and init buys me t95’s necro gear

[IScreamedWolf]

I’ll be real if they didn’t take away the old dailies I wouldn’t be nearly as mad about this. The MTX pvm buffs just adds insult to injury

[kaminax]

Assuming that every bit of this hero pass has to be at most reworked, and not changed, id propose the following solutions.
1. Cut the pass completion time by, at minimum, 50%. Preferably closer to 60-70, but half would be acceptable.
2. Revert daily challenges removal. Just remove the worthless lamps from the new dailies and give us back the old system, make it completely separate like its always been.
3. If the buffs must stay, all charges should be available to non premium. As an extension of this actually, only thing that should ever be locked behind premium is some cosmetics and, if they must, somewhat faster progression (more emblems, quality of life, not required to get everything, just takes longer, but still a reasonable time if not premium).
4. On that note, emblem costs should be significantly cut as well, or gains significantly increased, across the board.

If these changes were made, this pass would become a non issue for me, in fact, I would even see it as a better alternative to yak track. Wouldn't even have to remove buying skips if it were perfectly reasonable to complete in the amount of time they give, and if the buffs were made so accessible they are basically for all players, then i can view them as less of mtx and more of just an event buff you get to choose the timing of, and I see no problem in that whatsoever. I agree however, that the content should instead just be fixed. Id rather have better base content than have mtx/events apply bandaid fixes temporarily.

[Pinkyyybrainn]

Please keep uploading as much as you are. You creators have way more impact than us, and im here for all the content.

[ladymorgana]

the ex jmods tweet is actually extremely helpful, and its great that u showed it here. keep it up init!

[John.Doe.A.DR]

*Good Job Jagex, you nailed it nicely this time. Thank you for showing us your true purpose & intention of your company moving forward in the upcoming future.*

TLDR;
*(in short, they fixed something which does not need fixing... then create a problem, and at the same time SELLING the solution to counter the problem they intentionally created)*

👏🏻

[Dusty]

I feel like taking a break 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’ve only been back since lockdown so roughly 3 years and rs has just got so money hungry and feeding on fomo

[AliInvestigation]

Dropping comments like shooting stars to make all your dreams come true

[Kusshhyy]

I’m sad they took away the treasure keys you could earn from the daily challenges.

[badjer]

My problem with these sort of predatory promotions is that Runeacape is not a free to play game. We pay good money in excess of $100 per account per year to play this game. Many people paying for multiple accounts.
You cannot charge a premium and still expect people to be at all ok with all the other micro transactions found in free to play games. It's ok in those freemium games, because there is no initial cost to play. But to consistently Nicole and dime your PAY TO PLAY player base causes a lot of resentment, and loses you paying players...

for what? A single quarter of increased sales? You lose the continued income from those long standing paying players, to sell deep pockets that liked won't stick around once they get tired of the milking too.

[syrune]

So honest question which may or may not have a right answer, but if the "chaos ward" was changed to adding a % chance to drop an exclusive cosmetic to the hero pass as a token from the boss, would that be a better option then a straight pay to win pvm buff? I know effecting pvm in any way with any sort of mtx is universaly a bad idea, but, if it was an exclusive cosmetic drop added for the duration of the hero pass, would our runescape loot goblin instinct find this acceptable?

[Caterpire]

the fact that an ex mod is saying something that no longer is related to him says a lot about mods caring for the game

[MillsterUK]

I think the "It's here to stay" mentality is completely wrong in my honest opinion. Jagex already tried a "Battle Pass" style system with RunePass in 2018 and was pretty much immediately reworked into Yak Track following player backlash.

As for Hero Pass itself, while I don't agree with how it's been presented or implemented I'm still interacting with it while it's there as it's already in the game (and I hate seeing notification bubbles in my sidebar/chatbox).

I mainly prioritize my Ironman account so I'm quite pissed off at the removal of dailies xp/weekly rewards as I don't always want to rely on Travelling Merchant for reset tokens and doing things like Herblore had already become even more of a grind since the removal of herbs from boss drop tables.

[austinbeshuk]

You mentioned that it's here to say because money was spent on it, and i get that, though to follow that I would also say TO FIGHT FOR REMOVING IT, after this season, and paid for feature essentially, then it could be removed. like 1 season of this, and then put it back. Idk, thoughts off the top of my head but nothing is set in stone and though for now it is here, it doesn't have to stay. And then i think it's continued feedback like you said to fight for what we want.

[Mitchlaut]

What is the best way to provide feedback? I may have missed this from the video, but is there an email, a weblink, etc.

[ducksquidbat]

Ed4 runs would be fine if the bosses in the raid actually dropped something like the other dungeons do.

[LtMadWolf]

No one wants it to stay because this is what jagex does. they force updates like this and just band aid it. I'm done after 20 years. Everyone needs to realize what jagex is doing and what your paying for. I don't think my yearly subscription is worth having any more with the lack of content updates that are fun long term. The lack of updating the game and fixing everything wrong with the game for newer players to enjoy and have a reason to log in every day. I miss those days where i was couldn't wait to get home and log in to get back to training a skill that had a purpose to train and was fun to grind and rewarding for grinding. Where is that oh wait you buy it by getting keys for xp and now buffs to combat because new players can't learn without a wiki and discord to understand your combat that uses almost the same animations and problems I'm sure.

[draknor]

At this point, we're just watching Jagex try to find EXACTLY the amount of lube we need to not hate them f***ing us.

They are alright with us being upset, as long as we stay and pay.

This Hero Pass is STILL trash even with these possible changes coming.

[Drakksy]

The sad part is, I enjoy the hero pass. I'm an ironman and I love collecting cosmetics. I'm sure many people liked the Yak Track and collecting the items from it. The only issue is how wrong Jagex went about this. Basically forcing you to pay for certain things in it, saying it was a core game update, destroying daily challenges, constant pop ups, fomo related to the new skill (ghost conjure override at level 120). I really, really hope they find a way to fix this. I would love to be able to actually enjoy this content. It gives me motivation to play and unlock cool things, but right now it's just sad to be working towards pretty much unobtainable things...