A Free TV! (That Spies on You)

A start up company offers free televisions that spy on you.


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[juances]

Say you sell your soul for the free TV... then you invite a friend over... that friend hasn't sold their soul yet the TV will spy on them nonetheless. That's the problem I see with this. It's not something that affects just you, it'll spy on everyone.

[starsINSPACE]

How in the world is this TV not breaking some sort of child protection privacy laws

[rioee]

You guys missed the wildest part, the massively suspect things mistakenly left in the TOS, and the fact this is definitely going to be used to illegally advertise to and collect advertising data from children under 13. Y'all missed some big bits here. It's dumpster fires all the way down!

[kingsavage]

The only difference is they are incredibly upfront about it. 99% of other services hide this shit in a 1 billion page ToS

[libra_v]

"if the product is free, you are the product" has never been more accurate for describing a product. we're approaching the end times

[leonro]

Remember, folks, if you ever need a free TV, look at the second hand market! Many people have older TVs that are perfectly functional, but they want to get rid of them because they're upgrading. Sure, you might not get 4K HDR, but a 1080p display with a nice back-light shouldn't be too hard to find. They're all either free or dirt-cheap nowadays.

[FBI_Master]

If advertisers and big tech could do it they would take data directly from my thoughts and beam ads directly in my dreams.

[KTSpeedruns]

Part of the issue isn't the privacy thing. Part of the issue, or even really a big deal of the issue is that this is furthering the normalization of advertising being absolutely everywhere in your life. Advertisements on things you did and did not pay for, advertisements on consumer cars, advertisements on the pamphlet a hotel gives you, advertisements on the receipts for your groceries, advertisements on every screen, advertisements everywhere. Advertisements everywhere. If this is to continue, eventually, the next logical step will be advertising to the point where the only way to make it as a tech startup is to be doing something with advertising. Everything will be advertising, you will essentially own nothing because no matter what you buy, some other company has purchased some of that space to advertise to you. YouTube itself is also getting very aggressive, overly aggressive. I would argue, with advertising and it's not making me want to buy you YouTube premium. It makes me want to continue using an ad blocker.

[atimholt]

I'm so used to ad blockers. I went to the theater for the first time in ages tonight, and all the ads beforehand seriously felt like something out of a dystopia. They're not even disproportionate to how they were before I had ad blockers, that's just how ads feel to me now.

[deathtool]

Hotels will 100% take advantage of this. Will save the hotels 100 grand across 200 rooms.

[MsDoctorWhoFan]

This is how the world ends, not with a bang but with a television with nothing but oversaturated ads.

[BenutzerWalter]

Honestly, Im not as concerned about people agreeing to this as I am with people NOT agreeing to this. It still would collect data on ANYONE who visits the house, with only the consent of the owner. Imagine having friends over to watch a movie but none of them know they're actively being recorded. Sort of the same problem as apps getting information from contacts on people who never even signed up to consent to their data being collected.

This is a very serious and scary issue that has very little discorse— I feel it needs to be talked about way more and something NEEDS to he done about it.

[snb]

How has no one talked about how these are exactly like the screens in 1984.

[Apollo-iqvx]

This gives me "we can project ads into 80% of the human brain before triggering a seizure!" energy lmao

[waynetec]

"It's expensive to be poor."
Here, have a thumbs up, sir.

[FreakMC]

Linus' opinion basically boils down to "well we've already slowly made things worse, let's just keep on going!". Just what these companies want. Us to become used to this shit so they can slooowly make it worse and worse over the years and decades. They get you used to something slightly bad but "eh whatever" and slowly make it worse and worse until you don't even realize it's that bad because you're so used to it.

[fueledbythefireofficial]

This could be a non-problem for those who get it, until you have guests over...

Unless you explicitly say that everything you do or say will be recorded and sent to some random company, this could be a catastrophic disaster.

[intraspec]

It would be great to see an LTT video about them trying to workaround one of these TVs

[carsonmiller]

15:19 imagine a scenario where the power goes out and you are less worried about ensuring your safety, but rather that you won't go broke because some corporation can't collect your data. This is evil.

[nightshadesalad]

Listening to Linus talk about ad creep throughout the decades has me fully confident that youtube premium will eventually have ads. Cable TV was originally promised as an ad-free experience, but we all know how that went.