The Disturbing Elder Scrolls 'Iceberg' Conspiracies Explained

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Elder Scrolls iceberg conspiracy theories explained in 4 tiers of the most interesting, shocking, disturbing, and strange unknown game theories for the Bethesda game series of Elder Scrolls, which includes Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, Daggerfall, and ESO or Elder Scrolls Online. This video is a deep dive into gaming conspiracy theories and gaming iceberg and conspiracy iceberg gaming theories. Game theories.

Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:53 Tier 1 - Nirn
11:54 Tier 2 - Aetherius
23:52 Tier 3 - Aurbis
36:55 Tier 4 - Oblivion

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"And in skyrim you play as this idiot."
I've never heard a more apt description of the Dragonborn

critespranberry
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One thing I think everyone overlooks is that the Dwemer had the Dragon Elder Scroll in their possession when they vanished.
The same Scroll that sent alduin forward in time.

joshuabillings
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The Dreugh didn't rule Nirn thousands of years ago, they ruled it in a previous kalpa cycle. In other words they ruled Nirn in a previous cycle of creation and destruction of the universe in a totally different time.

RKGrizz
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One thing to note is that The Reaper is fought in the Soul Cairn which itself is a plane of oblivion so its most certainly is a daedric entity, hence the daedric heart it drops.

MCpk
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As an obsessive Elder Scrolls deep lore enjoyer it's really refreshing to hear a more straightforward and to the point explanation of these topics. Seems like a really good starting-off point for anyone who's looking to get into TES lore theories w/o all the nitty-gritty details that other creators present.

harlender
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on the whole rorikstead thing, it seems to me like bethesda had planned a side quest that deals with the whole daedra thing but it probably got scrapped, which makes sense because rorikstead is one of the few places in the game that has very few quests attached to it

yari
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By far the most deep lore nuts theory is that the towers across Nirn hold reality together like locks and that the high elves want to revert to spirit beings and are slowly trying to destroy the towers to facilitate the destruction of reality. We KNOW several of the towers have stopped working, but we don't know how many are still in operation. Another interesting theory is of course that the ban of Talos worship wasn't a religious disagreement, but rather them trying to make Talos's powers dry up and he would fade from existence through lack of worship.

danielbroome
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"Dwemer were peaceful" pardon?
Dwemer had plenty of wars even among themselves for selfish reasons, biggest example that comes to mind was the etherium wars which started as collaboration but quickly fell apart when different factions wanted to control the entire supply to the entire race. They were far from peaceful. They just didnt often interact with outsiders. Passive in world affairs, but passivity doesn't mean peaceful

thesun
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nice video! i was surprised by the low sub count. with quality like this, i initially thought you were up there with the big dogs like camelworks, epicnate, fudgemuppet, etc. looking forward to seeing your channel grow, keep it up!

drippiink
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Hey there, loved the video, but a few points, the dwemer have never really been known for their kindness or benevolence, they're pretty much a group of cold, calculating scientists, for whom ethics are nothing more than a formality at best, also Oblivion really isn't comparable to hell for us, same with the Daedra and demons, as Daedra are a manifestation of chaos/change through the entity known as Padomay, whereas Aedra are a mix of both Padomay and Anu's blood (save for Lorkhan, who is also a force of change), so technically Oblivion isn't necessarily "evil", just represents the original chaos

MacinteuchPlus
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The Story behind the Snow Elves and the tragic neglect of Lore behind/surrounding them had me captivated for so long. What happened that Night of Tears, what happened between the races well before the situation came to blows, as well as the Artifacts of Auriel and Magnus being all in Skyrim. And Skyrim's possible connection to "Altmora, the Elderwood, " and how that combats the Nordic claims.

As well as the Dawn Era and how the Et'Ada went about the situation before Lorkhan's treachery

thalmoragent
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on one of the first topics, that of the Dreugh and their domain over Nirn, it would have probably helped the entry if you had mentioned the kalpic cycles. the Dreugh ruled over Nirn in a previous kalpa, and it is implied in the 36 Lessons that even wackier shit happened in previous kalpas.
that's why their vast civilization has no remnant or memory; the world reset and the parameters for the re-establishment of the domain of the Dreugh were not met in the current kalpa.

corripiocruo
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Kinda nuts how Elder Scrolls has the portrait of a high fantasy but that shit is grimdark down to the core in all actuality.

Anyone interested in seeing the lore at more face value, I recommend Vicn’s Glenmoril, Unslaad and Vigilant quest mods. They’re obviously not canon design and look-wise but they really do delve into some of the real darker elder scrolls lore, like the real stuff. The mods do take some liberties but all the quests and storylines are based off actual lore.

FearOfTheDarkS
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51:30 Dagon seems more likely. That town is a very obvious reference to one of Lovecraft's story:
"The Shadow over Innsmouth". In that story the town of Innsmouth is in a very similar situation and part of the reason is due to the villagers worshipping an elder being called Dagon.

raitoiro
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17:50 There are problems with this idea. Most notably, there are argonians we meet in TES iv oblivion who aren't going back to Blackmarsh or who mention or seem concerned about some kind of call - even those we know hail from Blackmarsh. Its not even in the rumours in Oblivion, it only shows up *after* TES iv. That seems like a very weird omission, and suggests that it was an embellishment after the fact, or only applied to select individuals and was small scale enough to have gone unnoticed.

The entire known Argonian narrative surrounding the Oblivion crisis should be treated with suspicion; Everything from the supposedly successful invasion of Oblivion to the hist calling everyone home etc finds its origins as a sort of national myth put out by the An-Xileel, who were basically the Argonian Thalmor (They went so far as to desire to purge and exterminate all those 'assimilated' argonians, that is to say argonians with foreign customs, such as those born in other provinces). In that respect its not dissimilar to the claims put out by the Thalmor.

Also, other people did foresee the oblivion crisis, we get multiple prophecies about it in MW, and a retroactive one from Skyrim in the form of Alduins wall and the poems.

syphonfillter
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my favorite bit of elder scrolls lore is CHIM & zero-sum. CHIM is a state of being that grants an individual unlimited access to manipulate the Aurbis or the very fabric of reality however they see fit.

To achieve CHIM is to understand that you and everything else is merely a dream of a sleeping god while also retaining your individuality in the process, failing to retain individuality would result in zero summing in other words you pop out of existence.

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I personally feel like the dwemer when awakening the heart ended up making a pact with lorkhan taking them out to ending up making their own realm where the silently wait and prepare for a big final battle with the deadra and gods

Edit: thanks for the likes nice to know some people like the theory

aursunao
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The quality of this video shows throughout. Thank you for this extremely well written Elder Scrolls doc.

phoenixisash
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I like to think the Hist can recall the history of tamriel, but the only detail they bothered to remember was the weather.

“So what really happened in the first age oh great old one??”
“Started off pretty warm. Got colder.”

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The reaper sounds terrifying. Imagine being there all dark and not much to see but his glowing eyes but right before he attacks boom, he summons a Raid Shadow Legends Ad back to back.

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