Chaos Magick vs. Eclectic Witchcraft: They Are Not The Same

This video discusses the differences between chaos magic and eclectic witchcraft.

What is chaos magick?

Chaos magick and the avoidance of dogmatism:

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[katrinahohbein]

To me the difference was always thus: Chaos Magick is ruled by the mind - its a very analytical almost "scientific" approach to energy work. Eclectic Witchcraft is ruled by the heart - its a very intuition based approach, the theory behind it doesn't matter as long as the vibes are right.

[caroline-s]

I'm a baby occultist who is binge watching your videos. I appreciate your style and I don't understand why you don't have more subscribers.

[kittysoftpaws]

I'm a very analytical and scientifically minded person but I'm also very intuitive and I tend to trust my instincts a lot so I feel like I blend both eclectic witchcraft and chaos magic in my practice! It pleases my logical brain while also pleasing my heart lol

[godsofwar]

This aspect of belief isnt spoken about a lot. That's something people should discuss more. The changing of beliefs is most probably work with the subconsciousnes. I like how you explained that being a chaos magician is actually knowing of the mechanism of magic, this is so far the most accurate description I have ever heard 👏👏❗

[DarkArachnid]

Your description of chaos magick reminds me of a thought I had a while back regarding how one's manifestations change depending on the deity they believe in.

[SimpleMandy]

Currently binge watching your videos on Chaos magick and I think you've described what I have done for most of my life. It took one person to tell me I was wrong, and being caught up in mundane 9 to 5, for me to stop doing chaos. Now I find myself almost coming back home into it with a whole new perspective.

[dylanmagoiofthethalasso]

For me when I read the thumbnail and the title I immediately thought of a difference. Eclectic Witchcraft is like me taking spells from Ancient Greece, charms from traditional witchcraft, chants from folk magick while Chaos Magick is like me using Ancient Greek element correspondences for a spell but then use Taoist element correspondences for another spell, then for a different spell I could use a psychological model etc. In shorter words 😂🤣 I would say that Chaos Magick is a psychological change of perspective to another. Could you do a video on the differences of Witchcraft and Magick? Because I personally think that they are the same thing. As you know I want to write a book but I don't want too much of my own opinion in it and this topic of Witchcraft and Magick being different is one of those topics that features my opinion and not fact.

[churka]

That's very true about the paradigm shifting. I was doing that before I even knew about chaos magic, when I was just experimenting with witchcraft.

I've had all these doubts about my magic working and about spitits, so I narurally began to find other ways of thinking about magic. Psychedelics allowed me to do that more effeciently, though I wouldn't recommend them to everyone.

[KariTrottier-Whitsitt]

The paradigm shift concept is crucial I feel. Thank you Ivy.

[natchnieni]

I know I'm late in the game, here, but what you said about Paradigm Jumping sounds like the old notion that, if you learn different languages, you start thinking like people from the culture of that language - yes, it was kind of "debunked" but the notion lingers and somewhat rings true.

I've studied and practiced many spiritual paths. I never quite fit into any one - except Manifestation=Lawof Attraction.
Now, with this third wave of Chaos magick, I feel like it might be what I've been looking for.
Thanks!

[JasonArcane]

i've been looking for some quality info about chaos magic for so long and your material is the best! thank you for sharing!

[elizabethrhodes]

9:29 Wow 😂 I was not expecting to have my views pinpointed so exactly as I headed to my mundane boring job. I can't remember how many times I have said to someone that their belief in something is what gives it power, but it doesn't give it power for everyone because not everyone believes that same thing. I came to the video for the eclectic witchcraft title, but I guess I'm doing a deep dive into chaos magic now. Thanks for the great video!

[TheMultirealms]

I’m so glad I chanced upon your channel.
All these while, I’ve just been doing magic my way in my most intuitive self. I’m basically on the paradigm of “I will it, I have it, I do it because I am it” so it’s very self belief and self manifest driven. I do work with deities and spirits and the way I perceive my relationship with them is just like how you described here. I don’t know what you call this method this entire time but today I found out in such an enlightening way from you. Thank you so much!

[aurynluna]

i have always known that i was a chaos magician, it's concept is what i used to see my spiritual practice as. i see chaos magick as being able to question and disagree as you shift through spiritual practices, and a huge part of it is learning from different cultures.
for me, i perceive my spiritual practice as using faith, performance and rituals as means to unlocking my own self, accepting and working with my ego, trauma, and needs. i don't necessarily think there are those gods, archetypes, but i believe the use of their symbolism in ritualistic practice makes it possible to obtain what we want from them, so, in a certain way, they exist. i first read about this in the satanic bible (which i criticize in many ways, but learned a lot from) and it helped me understand why i didn't want to get stuck in "religions" and dogmas, because it was actually a tool for my own journey with myself and this world, and i could learn from so much more than one practice.
although i believe even if we don't "believe", this practice, the spiritual practice, is extremely sacred even so.

[dustinclark]

Have had a bizarre relationship with chaos, didn't know there was any mix up.

[artawhirler]

Excellent video, Ivy! I would recommend that people watch this video more than once.

[kobalt]

around 13 mins about paradigm shifting and thank you so much Ivey I really needed to hear that and get my head around it today. I am getting better at believing in myself, I nearly always get the results I want and need, but that little Ego voice still doubts The content on your channel is amazing Ivy, well done, and thank you for sharing so much !

[endlesspower]

Nailed it!!! We are not capable of truly quantifying objective truth. I've felt this way for years and this chaos magic path defines what I've been going through to a T... This gives me so much clarity and validation thank you!

[waywardmuse]

Another excellent vid - thanks! I think "chaos magick" would be especially helpful for those who want to revise a spell because they don't have all the ingredients a recipe calls for! :D. I've always believed how you characterize "belief". It's FIRE and we all know how effective and essentially "erractic" that can be. Talking about deconditioning and rewiring your brain -- try reading Lujan Matus's stuff -- changed my life!

[patriciabauman]

Thank you for this! ❤️ If I had to label myself, I would call myself an eclectic witchcraft practitioner. After today's topic, I can see how my approach to my practice does have a chaos flavor to it. I approach what I do with the with the thought that my belief is what makes it real. I'm not sure if my words are truly expressing my thoughts here or not. But there are instances where simple is better and there are instances where more is more. At the core, though, it's my belief that is the tool that powers my intention. I'm still such a baby on this journey and still have so much to learn. So, again, thank you! Blessed be! ❤️