Revelation 7:1-8 Who Are the 144,000 Sons of Israel? 3 Views

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This lesson provides more specific answers as to the identity of the 144,000 as the tribes of Israel are analyzed more closely.
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Another great educational video. The time and effort you’ve put into your presentations is appreciated. By the way, I took your suggestion (from an earlier video) and am reading The Day of Atonement by David DeSilva; you’re right, it’s definitely a page-turner.

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Greetings. I am blown away by your teaching on Revelation thus far. Great stuff.

Can you please expound on where the idea of triangular vs. square vs. rectangle numbers might be derived from in the bible itself? I get that there is most definitely symbolic numerological significance imparted to number as they appear in the text as certain numbers certainly represent certain ideas and or themes. This is nearly unquestionable. But as far as the structure of the number as they pertain to a certain shape, this seems, while possibly being of importance, to be an abstraction that I have a little trouble getting behind. If you can help me out a little with this I would like to hear what you have to say.

As a personal aside, I do take umbrage with your assertion that the physical description of the written biblical cosmology, IE. waters above separated from waters below, the circle inscribed on the face of the deep, the firmament of heaven, a stationary, set on pillars, immovable object can be construed as a "conspiracy theory". I personally, while allowing for a mere thought experiment, can see the current "scientific" explanation of our cosmos being labeled as that very same thing.


But either way, I commend you for you work. Keep an open mind and by all means please keep it up.

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3:00 "Triangular" and "square" numbers? Really? Where's 4, 3.5, 7, 12, 13, 24 used continually in the prophetic books? Oh well. In the Bible, "Jews" often means all of Israel, but sure usually tribes of Judah and Benjamin. 12:20 there are sources that suggest "Bilhah and Zilpah were also Laban's daughters, through his concubines." Just an interesting side-note.
17:25 Conquer/conquest by martyrdom? No, not buying that one. Dying for Christ, sacrificing yourself for another, that's being loving. "Love conquers all" sure, but Jesus isn't going to be using martyrs and such as weapons of war?
20:00 Ephraim is NOT missing, I believe it's representing their father Joseph. Jacob set Ephraim before Manasseh.
22:00 Jacob predicted that in the last days, Dan would be waiting for God's salvation Gen 49:18  I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD.  Therefore, it is highly likely that enough of that tribe was Raptured. See The Parable of the Ten Virgins.
Matthew25:10  And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; *and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage:* and the door was shut. 
Dan is also the judge.
Gen_49:16  Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.
Jesus is also the Judge.
Jesus as the serpent
Joh_3:14  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Dan as the serpent
Gen 49:17  Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward. 
This sounds evil maybe, but not if he is a protector.
Mat_10:16  Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

The Church is NOT Israel per se. The Church is a graft into Israel.
Rom 11:23  And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. 
Rom 11:24  For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? 
One could argue that this is only the Gentiles, but that would imply the Church has no part.

Remember,
Rom 11:26  And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 
Rom 11:27  For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins

The 144000 are VIRGINs.
Rev 14:3  And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 
Rev 14:4  These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 
This is an argument for the Rapture as they are the firstfruits from the Tribulation. Also, VIRGIN implies that they are young.
They follow Christ around singing. The tribulation is put on hold while they are sealed with God's name. See Ezekiel 9
This implies that they are witnesses or preachers. Because of the context, it is often assumed that they have been martyred.

I believe that they are witnesses to/of Israel because Israel is God's focus during the Tribulation. All part of preparing for a trial...
See Jer_32:10  And I subscribed the evidence, and sealed it, and took witnesses, and weighed him the money in the balances.

Don't forget the four hoursemen...
Zec_1:8  I saw by night, and behold a man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that were in the bottom; and behind him were there red horses, speckled, and white.
They find the Earth at rest the first time so they are recalled. But not the second time in Rev 6

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