Is Education Becoming Too Woke?

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[anthemdurr]

When A 15yo girl blackmailed me into sex when I was 13, I told my dad about it and he gave me props for getting laid... It messed me up and made me fearful of anything even remotely sexual for years after. Men and boys can be victims of SA, and it can screw them up.

[soccrstar]

No human deserves SA. Incidentally, men (in my case) are severely underreported. My best friend says that they feel underreported even more so. Nobody deserves it, period. We can stop this.

[sarah-janemelnychuk]

The problem in society is that people do not keep their biases in check.

Assaults on men go under reported because they are not believed. There is this assumption that the man is always the aggressor.

One time I witnessed this woman physically assault this guy. I then witness as he turned around but stopped because he realized who it was but he still voiced his issue with her assaulting him. He then starts running away from her. She’s yelling at the guy. He can’t get away from her quick enough. She then finds a Skytrain Attendant and tells her that she threatened him and all that. I literally run over to the guy. I told him. Take my number quick. I’m your witness. That lady is saying you threatened her and was aggressive. I’m telling you, the cops will track you down and without a witness it’s not gonna end well for you. Cops came. They were ready to take the man away in cuffs and everything. I told the cops she was the one who came after him and he couldn’t get away quick enough. The cops didn’t wanna believe that he was the victim.

To those of us who want to put an end to domestic violence and all that, especially if we are women, if men say they are victims, we need to believe them and support them. We need to stop painting men as ones with problems but see the issues in a broader perspective because surely how men are being viewed does not help the mental health of men and healthier men brings about healthier interactions with women. We need to partner with one another not against one another.

[llGyddyll-rmft]

As a female myself, it does bother me to see that while yes, there are men out there who have done horrible things, so have women. Men are also victims of abuse and sexual harassment by other men and women; women are victims of abuse and sexual harassment by other women and men. And yet people only pay attention to a category of victims instead of as a whole. My point is that both sexes are suffering, yet people pay attention more to one since that one is viewed as the more fragile and vulnerable than the other who's is expected to suck it up and 'be a man' which is totally harmful and degrading. Men need help just as much women do.

Edit: okay slow down the comments I keep getting notifications every single day 😭

[nellako]

I'm so sorry for all men and boys who have/had to go through suicide without the needed help

[JoyfulNerd]

My sibling recently committed and it’s been really difficult to deal with when this kind of rhetoric is so often repeated- that men and boys can’t also be going through a lot of difficulty and that very often help isn’t available to them

[shayla]

As someone who studied criminology and now has a degree in it, I can say that this guy is spot on. In my own education, I’ve had professors repeatedly remind us of these biases, and even one professor was sacked because of their view on it. How can we do proper research and help understand the situation when these biases exist?

[akiser]

In the same way medicine has ignored women and girl's pain and suffering during treatment, the social sciences have ignored the mental health and societal struggles of men and boys. We should all be doing so much better to care for everyone as a person, not some segmented politicized group.

[jayfalcon-rwqc]

As a man, it isn't an "either/or" situation. Hurt people hurt people. You should be as concerned about men's victims as you are about men's issues. Also, the two subjects are very likely interlinked with each other. Men with deeply rooted personal problems hurt both themselves and those around them

[lk]

I'm in a clinical psychology doctoral program rn and this is sadly completely true. Students come in with an inflexible ideological agenda and professors either agree or remain silent for fear of retaliation. They won't engage with disagreers and will make character smears about fellow students or attempt to get a professor fired. The whole field is going downhill if this isn't corrected. 😥 Thanks Dr. Haidt for talking about this openly!

[Slowess_]

I dont think its a problem of being too "woke", its a problem of not actually doing what a "woke" society says it would. Equality means looking at the problems of everyone, not just the problems of one side of something.

[fleridanfox]

I recently talked to my dad about mental health stuff after he opened up to me about his struggles. despite all my reasonable concerns for his sanity he keeps taking the conversation away from himself and towards me and the rest of our family. our older men of today just grew up in a time where you could only sweep things under the rug, even if it meant lower life expectancy due to the stress of it all. when men complain about women being “too” emotional, it’s not the women being dramatic, it’s the men fighting to keep their struggles and insecurities hidden. because “no man lets out his emotions.” I hope that men like my dad can find someone they can trust and open up to.

[elisebrown]

Can we just agree to represent the victimhood of all people, regardless of who they are? One person's pain doesn't take away from another's. And the same pain that lead men to suicide might also be turned outward into assault and SA. So address that pain. But don't be "anti-woke" about it. Everyone deserves a place to freely be themselves and pursue a happy and fulfilling life.

[llawliet]

I don't see why there can't be a study talking about the higher rates of racism, sexism, bullying, what have you in men and another studying about the higher rates of suicide and not being believed when they're SA victims. Both are problems that need to be addressed

[anegwa]

My ex told people I assaulted her when in reality she used to tease me sexually, send me exllicit photos, sext me etc. So several months in I tried to make a move and she said no. I stopped and then told her stop doing that other stuff then cause you have me confused. I broke up with her because I was supposed to be some toy she could play with but I am not allowed to do anything myself.

[angietrif]

As a counseling graduate student, there is a lot of negative language around men and masculinity. About how they’re toxic and don’t seek therapy when they need it. Part of the reason they aren’t seeking support IS the negative language around them!!! We need to start encouraging men rather than shaming them if we want to address the inequities in depression, sui**de, and other men’s related issues!

[britishchappie]

Your putting the lack of support for men and boys on the woke media somehow forgetting that for a very long time the only mental support we got was our parents when we were kids saying; suck it up buttercup; boys don’t cry; be a man. At least In this modern society we are starting to lose that stigma of not being able to show emotion. If I gotta be called a sexist by a minority to be able to socially acceptablely see a therapist and cry when I lose someone. Then they can say whatever they want

[LLandS]

Canadian health did a really great study on men's mental health. And one of the questions they asked men are. Why don't you reach out for help when you knew you needed it. Or when You felt yourself struggling. And the number one top answer by far overrating the second most common response by 7 2% was we were worried about the condemnation attitude or mockery from our fellow Men. With society which men happen to be part of as a very far away second. Also when asked why didn't you ask your friends or family for help and the number one reason again was they were worried about the mockery the the demasculation from other men. Not that they're worried about what women are going to think but what other men are going to think. And I think that's really telling. Also, men that grow up in a family that has a lot of other men are way less likely 78% less likely to reach out for help than young boys who are grown up in a family full of women.

Edit and I'd like to say that the reality isn't that men and women try to commit suicide at different rates. In fact, the two rates are so similar the The difference is are insignificant statistically. Cuz some studies find women try to commit suicide at a higher rate and some studies Men do at a higher rate and some fine women do. The reality is is because of the methods preferred by each gender. Men are more successful at it than women are. Women generally tend to use poison poison has a high success rate for treating. Where men tend to opt for something like a gun. And there's all kinds of studies onto why that is. All kinds of reasons. You can look them up. So the reality is both genders. Try to kill themselves at the same rate but both aren't successful at the same rate. That's the difference.

[TheLegacyofKingXeno]

I'd like to add my two cents of something I heard a long time ago: advocacy is not a limited resource. In this case, we can fight SA against men without losing any of our empathy or motivation to fight SA against women. Advocacy is not a competition.

[MA-oudk]

It’s weird that the suicide rate difference between men and woman varies through countries. In my country, it’s more women who commit suicide than men. I should mention that my country is a little more patriarchal than the USA in general.