Chara vs Goku (OLD VIDEO) @betterthanunknownfnaf #shorts

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When I read "Omnipresent" and "Low outerversal", I literally gave up to try reason with this living being.

P.Rapozito
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This has to be the most chara meat riding Channel I’ve seen

Chara is genderless lol.

SacredConquest
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I’m gonna try debunking this entire fiasco that you got right here

1.Chara did not destroy timelines/multi timelines or anything related so Chara would not be anywhere close to uni-multi

2. Undertale is a realm that is city-mountain level so if you destroyed the timeline you would only be planetary-solar system

3. In the fight with frisk they were only going to destroy the “world” destroying the world=only planetary feat

4. The quantum mechanics was quite literally stated to be in a joke book as like a made up thing and it was only quantum physics so it is not a type 3 multiverse

5.Chara is not “respawning🤓” it is a ingame mechanic, by your logic sonic would be immortal

6.On the screen the screen is only shaking so is not open infinite amount. It is still finite.

7. Infinite possibilities does not equate to infinite Multiverse and what flowey is saying is hyper-bole and should not be taken as a evidence for Undertale cosmology

8. being a ghost does not constitute to omnipresent that is just wrong and she does not have “unlimited” power so Chara is not Omnipotent

9. She is technically featless She was only there to motivate us to destroy the world so All of the actions were taken by the player not Chara

So let’s just assume that she could actually interact(which she cannot) the proper scaling would be:

AP:City-mountain or planet-solar(depending if you think that she destroyed the timeline or not which she didn’t)

Speed: massively hypersonic+

Cosmology:3d

Dimensionality:3d

Overall scaling:mountain

Deku victim mid diff

B__________
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as soon as I saw the outversal and the cap shit he said I didn't even bother to embarrass him😂

hmadmk
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I think this guy is the reason that irrational people can exist.

YouSeeingThisWasPartOfMyPlan
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Nah bro im dying, A girl with a knife will never kill an Mutiversal Legend

Meno_Editz.
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I've said this a long time ago, chara is straight up just a kid with a knife that could destroy timelines. You could say that she destroyed alot of timelines a whole universe concept has more timelines then what chara did.

We're only talking about chara here, this kid can not defeat goku with a fuckin knife

That won't make sense either because goku has a very tough skin. You could see that against moro when he hitted goku he fuckin broke his hand.

Ki control actually exist here.
Goku has overall perfect ki control so much that if he didn't have a perfect ki control he would've probaly destroyed universe 7 already.

Goku even shaked a whole void realm by just screaming while jiren shaked the whole void by walking.

Goku defeated jiren which means he's even more stronger than what jiren was shaking infinite nothingness the void realm is much more than any timelines could do.

He even ran in hell/heaven which is KIND OF Frickin insane technically thats basically making goku almost infinite speed not to mention that if you walked in hell or so your speed is definitely gonna go up.

Chara did not destroy 3600 universe more likely their are just Timelines.

Chara is only omnipresent when She or he was a ghost, so that doesn't proof anything that chara has that amount of speed.

Chara durability actually sucks considering that chara scales hp with frisk wheter or not chara prob has 90+ hp.

Goku meanwhile did much more and tanked a whole attack from jiren and moro Who is Multiversal level and probably stronger than the god of destruction ( except for beerus)


Whether or not battle iq doesn't mean experience.

Goku has fought more complex enemies than even chara does.
So that statement is useless.

Goku meanwhile is high multiversal or even complex multiversal at best.

And oh please don't even come up with yo ass saying erase button.

Technially Goku has no escape from that.
But we still don't know if goku could be erase just from that one button.

Heck we don't even know how strong that erase even is.
We could say hakai scales like erase but much more like just one person but lest say goku has probaly much more faster speed than a kid clicking a erase button.

Hes definitely gonna just straight up either break the erase button, or just punch chara way before she/he even clicks the button.

There's also chara basically crashing the game. Which is pretty hard to debunk but

It's probably just a moment just to say how strong chara is. But sadly he ain't closer to goku.

But it depends if he uses base or even ultra instinct but base is enough at least he would dodge some attacks and tank them since goku literally has no hp

Hes hp is prob off the charts as literally infinite 9999 wouldn't even do anything
Plus the knife would break considering it doesn't have any matter or any built in strong material in it.

While undertale whole timeline is on a mountain it doesn't affect the surface at all.

The stars in undertale much likely came from the surface, but that isn't true or what it is since i haven't played it in a long time.

Hakai also destroy immortal beings.

Trunks basically cutted a immortak being ( zamasu) but that failed

Also don't get me wrong most of these statements they could've been taken from google or something or just a fanon chara overall 😭

Goku scales multiversal- complex multiversal

But i would say chara scales universal or
Low multiversal at best

I couldn't know if chara strenght is that strong considering chara uses a knife that basically doesn't mean chara has pure strength from it.

Plus chara is debunked already.

TherealPoifr
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"goku is an idiot" bro im crying right now💀😭

carmarko
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Chara when she faces the almighty presence of edp445:😱

concillium-w
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"I think.. They have to wake up right?"

UltraDJ
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Bro pulled the statements from his ass🔥💯

roberte.ospeedwagon
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strength:goku(chara is around frisk's strength and frisk is not even 18 while goku can hurt beings way above universal)
speed:goku(Inaccessible speed while chara has no speed feats)
durability:chara( is not alive)
iq:chara(...)
biq:goku(...)
experience:goku(...)
more abilities;goku(i'm not copy pasting all his abilites)
better abilities:chara(can reset, memory manipulation and probably has around the same determination as genocide frisk)
transformations:goku(almost a free point)
weapons:chara(almost a free point)
ap:goku(shook universe 7 to the point it would end up on it being destroyed
universe seven is a universe with multiple realms and was said to have an infinite hierarchy atleast in the mortal universe)
stamina:chara(ghost)
reaction speed:goku(chara has no reaction speed feats)
hand to hand:goku(chara never fought before and only knows how to fight because of frisk)
combat:goku(same as hand to hand)
skill:goku(same as the last two)
defense/offense:goku(for defense he has ultra instinct and for offense he has things like a spirit bomb or a hakai)
feats:goku(has defeated beings way above universal while chara's best feat is destroying one universe)
tier:goku
winner:goku mid diff

chara did not destroy the whole undertale multiverse, they only destroyed a singular universe that is the one you play

gab_maluco
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Bro can just spirit bomb the undertale box💀💀

JorinKujoo
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Physical Characteristics, Magic, Time Manipulation (Creation and Destruction of Timelines, rewind time), Spatial Manipulation, Willpower (Status Amplification), Ignore Durability, Soul Manipulation, Data Manipulation (with three genocidal routes in a row, it literally deletes the PC game), Immortality (Type 3; can use Resolve to respawn even after dying. Possibly Type 7; same can be seen as being linked with Resolve), Self-Sustenance (Type 1), Possession, Embodiment, Resistance to Memory Manipulation and Soul Manipulation (doesn't have one), Acausality, possibly Fear Inducement. | all powers from before at higher levels, with the addition of Frisk's powers from having his soul.

yamchadon
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Thank you someone finally mentioned the destroying universe with one button thing

the_chill_man
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Chara wins...because... High-Intelligence: Chara seems to remember the timelines (considering when you do the Genocide Route and ERASE and do it a second time and click DO NOT, Chara says “You made your choice long ago”, implying remembrance).
4th Wall Awareness: As said, Chara is aware of the Player’s existence, the SAVE and RESET, and the routes.
Attack: At the end of the Genocide Route, Chara does an extremely powerful attack, which seemingly kills the Player (or Frisk) and destroys the entire universe.
Possession: As a spirit, Chara can possess someone if they have enough DETERMINATION, such as possessing Frisk in the Soulless Pacifist Route (although, this is still partly speculated).
Determination: With this, it allows Chara to keep coming back despite how many times they die, all while retaining all their past knowledge.
Transmutation: Chara can create (stated at the end of the Genocide Route), destroy/erase (via ERASE), and restart (via RESET) timelines and manipulate the events.
Save and Load: If Chara were to mess something up, they could go to a certain area and fix it.
Face Manipulation: It was shown Chara can make their eyes and mouth wider and even cause black/brown goop to drip from their said eyes and mouth.
Knifemanship: It is implied Chara has some connection with knives. This, and considering each fallen human has a weapon and armor that represents them. For Chara, the "Real Knife" and "The Locket".

glitchzplayzthis
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Before charas death Goku would simply win but after Chara died of sickness, Chara had turned into a god

lancergameing
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Even though i am an undertale fan, when i seen the "low outerversal" i lost hope in humanity
Edit:Chara is not even close to low outerversal, Chara destroyed a universal tier timeline, which will make them Universal at best, while Goku was able to shake a timeless void in the tournament of power by just powering up in his Ultra instinct omen form, Goku is faster than light he was able to overpower Hit's time skip, and Chara is still a child, even though they destroyed a timeline (btw chara goes by they/them) they are still a child and their speed is probably average, Experience...bro do i really have to explain this? Goku spent almost all of his life training and learning new techniques since he was a little kid and he also continued training in the afterlife, Durability, Goku survived blows from Jiren who is stated to be stronger than a god of destruction

DigitalDynasty
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Lemme Debunk This

Strength = Goku
( He Shook The Universe, While At The Start Of Super. He Only Had SsjG And Beerus Was Using 1% Of His Power Probally. Current Goku Is Way Stronger + He Has UI And SSJB KK×20. If We Are Talking About Manga He Has TUI. And He Probally Is Way Stronger On SSJG Now. As TUI Goku Is Close To Beerus's Full Power. It Only Needed 3 Effortless Punches From Goku And Beerus To Shake Universe 7. And The Dragon Ball Universe Is Different. He Shook The Macrocosm Which Is Infinite Universes On Its Own, Thats How Big One Of The Universes Is, Unierse 7 That Is. )

Speed = Goku
( Goku has insane speed feats, he is arguably millions or billions of times faster than the speed of light in TUI, in TUI has great reflexes, insane instict and is practically efortless autododge. He also has Instant Transmission. Which he can use to cross universes in an instant or realms. By tracking ki )

IQ = Chara
( Goku hit his head as an baby. Which lead him to be a good saiyan and also dumb )

BIQ = Arguably Goku
( He is around 50 now, and almost every battle if not every he has used his battle iq for insane tactics and ways to outsmart his opponents. And trained with 2 of the strongest humans and best kung fu teachers on earth )

Durability = Goku
( Can probally survive full power beerus hits on TUI, And beerus is an destroyer on base state he can casually destroy any planet or star he wants with just an finger )

Winner: Goku ( Dbs / Dbs Manga Version, If we include every version he overkills with ease )

Vegeta Can Overkill Chara Way Easier If We Include Him. He has more strength than goku while goku is way faster. He can just use Hakai/Hakaishin to delete Chara's Existence on UE.

Update
( I learned new facts about Goku, so if you don't believe me still. Ill put more stuff )
His Speed On TUI Is Actually Around 60 Quadrillion Times The Speed Of Light. On TUI He Actually Can Think And Has Emotion, He Can Get Angry And Such. And He Has Some Kind Of Susanoo Version Of Him, It's Like A Giant Goku. He Used It 2 Times On TUI.

Abilities:
Telekenisis, God Bind ( Can Stop A Person Entirely, Freeze Him In Place But The Person Is Still Gonna Be Concious, Used It On DBS: Broly )

Moved On Hit's Timeskip. Where He Can Control Time And Space Entirely.

He Stated That He Could Beat Fused Zamasu Who Merged With Entire Timelines. Goku Black Which Is Just Zamasu In Goku's Body, He Made A Hole Throught Time And Space With A Ki Scythe.

Can Cross Entire Realms. He Can Teleport To Heaven With Instant Transmission. This Is Proved Beacuse He TP'ed To King Kai's Planet. Which Is In Otherworld/Heaven.

Other Versions:

Xeno Goku: Absolutely Shat On All 3 Forms Of Demigra On Base. The Dude Was Threatening To Destroy Every Timeline And Dimension Inside The Dragonball Fictional Universe. And The Dragon Ball Verse Actually Has A Real World Of It's Own. He Also Knew About That And Threatened To Destroy It Too. The Xenoverse Supreme Kai Of Time ( I Think That's The Name I Don't Know ), Needs To Create An Whole Universe For Xeno Goku To Train. And He Can't Even Transform Into SSJ4. If He Does Transform Into SSJ4 ( His Full Power, Strongest Form ) He Risks Every Timeline And Dimension Of The Dragon Ball Verse.

CC Goku: Absorbed The Ki Of The Universe God Tree. He Fought And Beat Fu. He Unlocked SSJUB, Super Saiyan Universal Blue. And He Is Stated To Be Stronger Than Xeno Goku.

God Fusion Goku: Merged With 200 Real People On An Real Life Event

vriyfr
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Hey guys to end this debate Chara is game character the Dev can do anything they want with the character

And same for Goku but Goku is kinda like that real life situation where you need to train to gain Strenght and Power.

CherrysGuy