Atheist Edge vs Frank Turek - Round 1

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"GAWD DID IT!" is no more an explanation than "NATURE DID IT!"

AsixA
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Frank Turek was destroyed by Hitchens before. He’s definitely doesn’t shy away from a debate.

sanmigueltv
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The whole “materialism” apology is just one giant straw-man. I mean, I’ve watched and listened to thousands of hours of atheist debates, shows, conversations, etc., and I have never even once come across any atheist who is a strict materialist. Ever. In fact, I’ve never even come across anyone at all who is a materialist (of course I have insert the “boiler plate” statement that, just because I haven’t seen it doesn’t mean that it’s not out there. So yes, there may be some atheists and people who are materialists….).

So in addition to being a huge straw-man, this whole “materialism” apology is just a huge red herring. It simply doesn’t apply to atheism at all.

tonetony
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Theist apologists agruement all boil down to God real, God did it, cause magic

artfreak
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Atheist Edge, lol, I am an overgrown germ? I wish I could have watched while live. Turek is too much into his philosophy, yet thinks he's a scientist. But, even though he's in it for the money, he isn't mean and it was good of him to come. He can have a respectful conversation/debate. But he knows the arguments have beaten him, but he also knows a lot of believers haven't heard them, or even thought about it. Great video. The god of the bible can be proven not possible by using the bible. Dan Barker did it perfectly in a debate with kyle butt! 👍👍👍 💓✌

laurajarrell
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Just saying that "theism explains X" tells you nothing unless you explain *HOW* theism explains it.
It is quite evident even after 2000 years theists have never explained how theism counts as an explanation other than appealing to god's "miraculous powers" or it's simply his "nature".

So basically it either boils down to *"magic"* or it's natural. If it's natural then there is no need for god. It is an extra unnecessary assumption.

jtveg
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Good video. Thanks for sharing it with us and keep up your great work.

CharlesHuckelbery
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I don't understand the truth question. Of course truth exists. Can someone enlighten me concerning this question?

thunderridge
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Turek is one of the worst for conflating atheism with anything else that makes his argument easier, usually evolution. If he had to actually argue against just atheism, he'd get his ass handed to him, which he normally does, but he would actually have to admit it. But, no, it's easier to say all atheists believe in evolution (ignoring a lot of Christians do as well) try to make the case that evolution is evil and thus so is atheism.

TlalocW
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"Who cares?" best argument yet.

glenncalkins
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Atheist Edge : So you're just going through Callsign Deadmeat and his book? ;-)

fredriksundberg
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People who are explained over and over again that they are utterly misrepresenting the opposite side, to then just keep spouting these misconceptions anyway, don't deserve any respect. (in my view, of course)

BorisNoiseChannel
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"Dr"??? lol as in "Dr" kent hovind? bhwaa!

robertwhite
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But is he wrong though? find where he is in error.

bouillonsun
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London may not be a map, but it is a layout and proves itself as designed.

DNA is functional encoded instruction; it's biomateriality does not negate it's encoded-ness.

Printed ink on paper is material, yet writing is encoded communication.

The way these are being written off just shows that one can find an excuse to write these ideas off. To show that these ideas lack merit, such would require delving past the ability to dodge and actually dig into attempting to discern what is likely to find the merits and lackings thereof.

The anecdotal stuff is discussing human behavior rather than the likelihood of God.

Much love. Christ has chosen you too.

nicholas