Can an AMAZON Picker Afford to Live in SYDNEY?

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Can you work a job as an Amazon shelf picker AND afford to live in Sydney?
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FAQ: No I am NOT SAYING this is a good thing, or that anyone should do this, or that anyone should pay this sort of income/rent ratio. I'm just showing the numbers to show it's possible to work at this place and live nearby in a nice apartment and have money left over.

EEVblog
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That's Not "Live" Dave, That's "Survive". No Job security, & not enough money to save & invest in a deposit. In one of the wealthiest companies in the World ?

tommyhanlon
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Amazon basics accomodation, coming to a warehouse near you soon.

TheWebstaff
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Australia has outrageously high prices..so your spare 300-400 bucks won't go far if you like having a social life. movie tickets $25 (don't even think about buying popcorn $10), $7.00 for a schooner of beer. Heaven forbid you smoke.. $50 a pack. Forget about eating steak..about $25-30 a kg....if you buy a car petrol is around $1.60 a litre these days then you got your rego, insurance, car repayments. In reality you would not be working a job and having your own apartment..you will be share housing and getting a room, catching the train from way out in woop woop.

raindogred
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Can you survive? Sure, absolutely. But how much are you factoring in for retirement savings, down payment for a home, additional training at university, vacation, hobbies/entertainment, transportation, etc..

Sampsonoff
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The number of shifts you get will vary greatly depending on sales and your performance, if sales are low, casuals are first to go.

Wormetti
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Yeah, some Americans like to talk about how tax is "only 10%" or whatever while completely forgetting other forms of tax such as income tax or property tax and even more taxes if you own a business, also ignoring things like mandatory car/health insurance, if it's mandatory then it's basically a tax and on top of that I only recently learned that some states don't even pay for public services like trash, you have to pay a private company to take your trash too.

Of course, it all varies by state, but imagine paying in total roughly 30-50% in taxes and not only do you still not get healthcare, that is astronomically expensive, but the state might not even take your damn trash.

vgamesx
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20 years ago there was a rule of thumb here in Germany: do not spend more than about 33% of your net income on your flat/house. I guess this is not true anymore, since costs for renting a flat/house went through the roof especially in bigger cities. But this 1/3 rule is a first start, and one should limit himself/herself to about a mx of 50%, I assume.

peter.stimpel
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I thought this would be interesting but then saw the $28 was for a casual role LOL. I worked at Coles as a casual cleaner in 2015 for $27ph in a cheap Melbourne suburb. The problem with casual roles is the stress of losing shifts and lack of consistency of shifts. For example a manager threatened to withold shifts when I was bedridden with flu and I had a medical cert for 4 days. I had so much stress and anxiety during that time, having to choose between forcing myself to work or face the possibility of losing shifts. I was only able to sleep at night after I got in touch with my union. This arm chair analysis doesn't fully capture the reality of the situation.

moodynoob
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Not really forward thinking. What if you break a bone or get sick for a week or 2? You own a car have to pay rego, insurance and fuel? The work isn't guaranteed, you might get an put under a crazy supervisor.

ksss
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Can you? Sure. Would you want to? Probably not, not long-term anyway.. Adecco are the main agency for the warehouse near me and they are horrible to work for. The pay is above our minimum wage (works out around $18-23 AUD) depending on dayshift or nightshift. 20 or 40 hours a week, plus any overtime available, 10 hour shifts which 90% you are on your feet doing repetitive tasks. Floor managers on your back constantly if you're not meeting hourly targets, taking too many toilet breaks, taking too long to get back from meal breaks etc.. Most people only last a few weeks in the job, that's if they get through the first week lol.
Having driven the staff buses that Amazon paid for to take people from the local city and park&ride to the warehouse at the beginning and end of the shifts, I've heard my share of stories about working there.

DavidB
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There's a reason they offer 20 hour weeks, it's due to the workload and they almost demand you do overtime when they need it, and fuck you off when you need the extra hours. Please consider doing your sums for the job offer posted, you can't just get nearly double the hours in a week, every week, all year long.

It's paid very very badly, to the point where no worker lasts more than 2 months,

initialb
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Adecco is an employment agency they basically get used here for temp workers so they don’t have to give you benefits. Also your minimum wage is better than ours. Doing the math equates to $18.71/h but ours is $14.25/h.

dennislacroix
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13:20 Harbour bridge connects Australia to New Zealand? Yeah, right!

NicholasMarkovich
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In Germany my past renters required that the rent is not more than 1/3rd of my income, to both ensure that they'll see their money, and that you'll have sufficient extra that even if something bad happens to you, you'll still be able to pay.
This here is 2/3rds, and that is assuming you can work full time (which you don't)

DedmenMiller
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I live in Kenosha Wisconsin where there is a huge Amazon warehouse with several of the satellite warehouses around our area they are fighting for people right now I see signs often that say $19 an hour starting.
If I break my arm my deductible is $5500. Plus I believe somewhere around 20% of the bill. By the way it is nearly impossible to find out how much something costs before the procedure is done in the USA. Dollar for dollar the United States healthcare system will bury you in debt.

markgreco
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"which connects Australia to New Zealand" always gives me a giggle🤣

GPUtest
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Fck yeah! What do I have to do to become an Australian citizen? Rob a bank in UK? Insult the Queen?

torstenb
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In the US, after all the renter insurance, car insurance, health insurance, dental insurance, eye insurance.. Not to mention petrol, car maintenance (since public transportation is a joke here), utilities, rent, savings, and food.. Amazon thinks $21 Australian dollars/hour is a thrivable wage. And rent is just as expensive, if not more, in the US... 400sqft apartment in my area is $1, 684 Australian dollars/month (plus fees/taxes) and you must make 3x amount, per month, to even be considered for renting. Most properties are owned my big real estate companies, so .. that makes it difficult to get anything actually done.

Bunjamin
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When I hear about Amozon staff complaints it tends to be more about the working conditions rather than wages.

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