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Is THIS the Biggest Plot Twist in the Metal Gear Series?

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PythonSelkan
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Honestly they really should have had big boss' voice changed to David Hayter in mission 46. That would have been icing on the cake for the twist and solidify the unreliable narrator in mission 0.

Mystro
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Also, OG big boss spoke russian fluently but in mgsv he suddenly needs an interpreter.

eneocct
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Also before each side ops mission in GZ the opening credits read "A Pseudo-historical recreation"

johnseanson
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Hearing Big Boss or even Solid snake for that matter asking anyone "What should I do" is the most out of character and impossible thing Snakes would ever say.

CrayZgunZ
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They played us like a damn fiddle!! 💔
Metal gear saga is so complicated to understand...

TheHitReality
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"Big Boss, turn off the game console right now."

Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
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It's interesting but when we play GZ Kojima himself tells us "starring Big Boss", while when we play TPP the titles go "starring Punished Venom Snake"

JJShalashaska
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Fun fact: Glaz and Pelitz will also refer to Big Boss as "A Phantom" in the mission "Eliminate The Renegade Threat"

slickcalf
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You’d think with brainwashing Venom, they would teach him the languages Big Boss could speak lmao.

BadassName
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Went to the comment section for clarity. Came out with an even larger head ache.

ProxylandGiraffe
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"Videogames have shallow stories"

The videogame:

fernosan
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That fits why GZ had Sutherland as Snake, because it wasn't the actual Big Boss, but Venom imagining it as himself.

Upamanyu
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And also if you look at big boss shadow, big boss hair will appear with a short hair not a long hair.

bryuhMan
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I love those little details we didn't see at first.

ghislain
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One thing that really makes me wonder about Venom Snakes true identity...

Who else knows?

Big Boss, Zero, Ocelot, Miller for sure. Volgin was able to figure it out, and it's definitely possible that Psycho Mantis knows and could have told Liquid at some point. (I doubt Ocelot would have told him)

It's not clear if the rest of the Patriots knew. Eva or Sigint could have been kept in the dark. I wouldn't be surprised if Paramedic was involved, given that she was involved with creating the Cyborg Ninja, but nothing concrete to implicate she was involved or knew.

meanwhileonhastings...
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This game has the hardest lore to understand

CryogenicSleeps
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It’s about spying, subterfuge, misdirects and lying.
Everything you hear is a lie, even the truth is a lie in this series, but all those twist and turns is what makes this series fun to play

tumbahantoine
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This is also like MGS2 even. Raiden does the Tanker mission (a mission before the main game, just like GZ) in VR. I believe the Colonel's lines in the beginning of the Plant mission will even change depending on if you did the Tanker mission first or not.

onii-chandaisuki
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imagine if this was actually just the writer forgot their own convoluted plots and just says ''fuck it'' and start writing whatever they could remember from memory 😂

priestdamon