Why I STOPPED practicing pure IFS therapy and what I do now instead

In this video, I'm sharing why I stopped practicing pure IFS therapy and what I do now instead. Discover the pivotal moment that led me to reevaluate my therapeutic approach and the alternative method I've embraced in its place. Join me as I candidly discuss the benefits and drawbacks of both IFS therapy and my current approach, shedding light on the transformative power of this shift in perspective. If you're curious about IFS therapy and self-discovery, this video offers valuable insights that could revolutionize your own therapeutic journey.

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// ABOUT ME:

Hi, I'm Lucille Aaron-Wayne. I help visionaries, luminaries and soul-seekers move from stuck to self-healing.

Are you thrilled by the potential of IFS? Love Jungian analysis? Curious about art therapy? You're in the right spot! I'm a:

- Level 3 Certified IFS Therapist
- professional mental health provider in the Netherlands with a private practice
- Jungian-Analyst-in-training
- passionate holder of a master's degree in creative arts therapies (you can call me an art therapist)

And I like to dance ;) I'm passionate about empowering you to pilot your self-healing journey.

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[martialmusic]

I am experienced with both, but I did Jung first and at great depth with at least one world renowned analyst. I am learning IFS now. IFS is more powerful in terms of healing. But Jung’s work provides a deeper understanding of what is happening. When it talks about archetypes it is talking about fundamental emotions that people sometimes blend with to their detriment. Active imagination technique invented by Jung is an early clumsy variation on parts work, which IFS has taken farther and more effectively. Object relations theory in a somewhat Freudian approach to understanding parts. Fritz Perls chair work also is parts work but using dream figures or parts. When Jung talks about the sacred (or its opposite, the infernal) he is talking about profound emotional experiences, which frankly are ordinary if we allow them to happen. Sadly, we sometimes must go through the unpleasant ones first (deal with our wounds) u til we get to the deep inner ones of self acceptance. (Note the word Self, ) the experience of the Self May feel like a God like religious experience, but in the end it is just self acceptance as an ordinary person, living mostly in the here and now. And now guess what? We know we are not exactly like others, of course, but we are variations of fundamental humans. That is, we are individuals and rarely are seized by archetypes (that is, blend with a ‘part’) or if we do so it is consciously because it is ‘part’ of who we are. Some parts are to be feared and kept from unsafe expression (but explored with curiosity in safe moments) others to be enjoyed and explored as well. Jung himself suffered a deep narcissistic wound after his breakup with Freud and was overwhelmed by his unconscious (his parts) and spent years on them in writings and art work. In public life he avoided the effects of blending, but the deep blends of inner pain were there. These had a deeper origin in his own childhood. The disappointment and rejection by Freud activated much from his early childhood. To his credit he kept his outer daily life together while his inner life utterly degenerated. But even profound grief and pain will gradually ease if yiu weep long enough and have one or a few compassionate friends. Jung’s wife was not particularly understanding. She was a good woman but did not go deep enough to meet his deeper emotional needs. Jung did have a regular girl friend too (she may or may not have been a lover) who fulfilled thar role, both as good person and as “soul guide”. So here today I share some of my own deep knowledge, based on both experience, education, analysis, and healing. I hope it is of some use to someone. I have learned these things because I had to. But I applaud IFS. Most folks simply want healing. Jung certainly did for himself and found it…slowly. I think Jung could have speeded his personal healing up using IFS methods, but, bring Jung, he still would be Jungian, and would talk about God, the gods, and the archetypes.

[itviking]

IFS is just one tool. If a carpenter tries to build a house with only one tool, the project will suffer.

[RawanTeee]

No one teacher knows everything in this world and if that was the case, all knowledge seekers should be out of things to do. Key is to learn from different people and integrate different ways of healing to what we personally find the best. I was trying to heal for 10 years and only when I started using IFS I saw the light. It was truly life saving to me and many others and helped me go deeper.

[carmenl]

I didn't agree with your findings because IFS is the only therapy I know of that addresses the foundation, namely the child traumas.
But having read your comments, I think I now understand what you mean (but I could be wrong, of course). It's about the situation after the healing. How do you live your life from Self? How do you connect with the greater SELF? What is your core? To me, it sounds more like a spiritual question and not so much a psychotherapeutic question.

[judithtoor]

Richard Schwartz, the creator of IFS, is a Jungian and a family systems therapist. As someone who went to a presentation of his as he was putting together the IFS model, I can see are using these two together would be very appropriate and helpful to clients.

[jessebrock]

I am just now starting I.F.S. It's the most helpful tool I've ever experienced. With saying that, I've been in therapy for 26 years on and off. Before starting with my current IFS therapist, i had healed a lot of my trauma. My flashbacks were still triggered. I lived in constant fight or flight. Diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder and CPTSD and Depression. Since I've been with my therapist, my flashbacks don't cause panic or anxiety. Depression and anxiety are at manageable levels. Every time i meet a new part and help it, I feel joy. I.F.S. is working for me but other methods have been taught before.

[ubmhwel]

I appreciate your opinions about IFS. And as a therapist it is important to me to use and refer to various modalities based on where my client is and how I best can draw them into the process.

[username]

yes!! Anytime I find myself thinking inflexible thoughts like "this is the only tool you ever need" or "this is the answer for everything", I know there are some cognitive distortions and probably mistruths at play.

[karenslaughing]

Totally agree. . IFS wasn’t helpful for my cptsd. Did it for 5 years. I’ve found other means that have been more therapeutic- ketamines for instance.

[markmoore]

I love this. IFS has been for about five years, and continues, to be a huge part of my recovery, healing, and mid-life transformation. I practice some on my own and some with my therapist, but my therapist and I simple talk sometimes. This video is validating the just talking aspect for me, as well as pointing to a Jungian approach. I've long heard of Jung, but never read his work or overtly experienced his method in therapy. I'm definitely more curious now. Many thanks for the post!!!

[kurdirama]

I appreciate both IFS and Jungian psychology, and I understand the mythical connection that you crave and get with Jungian analysis, but I don't think the house metaphor is appropriate. I recently started training with IFS and I am amazed just how quick it is in helping people see and work with their inner worlds in a way that I have never seen before.

[Dischordian]

I came to Jung first and I agree with this video in general, and specifically with another comment here that IFS is essentially a specific, and more frameworked kind of Active Imagination.

For me Schwartz's work has more evidence of its value exactly because it has emerged as a _parralel discovery_ of Jung's findings.

However you could also see Jung's approaches as a means to open up less accessible "trail heads" as well, just as I did today, starting with dream figures.

The value of Jung is that he allows and maps out an additional journey to the soul, spirit, godhead etc, which is not dependent on the mental process of the client, which is possibly one of the key weaknesses of IFS, since one must find some humility in order to heal deeply, and being always a known and needed part of the healing process rather defeats the ego deflation, and ritualised access, necessary to produce access to the client for healing purposes, from completely outside of their own conscious mechanisms.

I think these two systems are massively complimentary precisely because one empowers the individual totally (IFS), and the other allows the individual to acknowledge, accept, understand, _and happily utilise_ the opposite fact of lack of power to change in the face of an overwhelmingly potent, but subtly hidden system.

[tontothealaskanmalamute]

I’m a UK therapist of 30 years and have been working with Jungian and IFS for some time now - I also use other frameworks when appropriate

[Daneiladams]

therapy is hit or miss, ive been through many therapists and I still have the same issues although my relationship to it has changed and I have more compassion with myself

[remembertobe-effortlessly]

Do you know anything about Loch Kelly's integration of Tibetan Buddhist practices of effortless mindfulness along with IFS? This seems one major dimension which is not so well developed in IFS alone. Here's a good video with Loch and Richard talking together.

[Itslewieo]

Did you ever do the unattached burden work ? Removing the entities that are not parts of the system? If not this is key on why things weren't working

[pugninja]

Just subscribed. Love yr room.
Im in the uk, training to become a therapist just heard of ifs an hour ago. X

[nickhyder]

my trainer uses IFS with Hakomi, Sensorimotor, Somatic experiencing, with bits of EMDR. Whats your view on that approach?

[bjk]

Hi lucille,
I enjoyed your videl, but was left wanting to know your opinion of what exactly it is that the jungian approach adds to ifs. It seems to offer a greater explanatory container, but that is probably not the element that will lead to deeper healing.
A follow up video would be good 😅

[childofgod]

I find this incredibly interesting. I've always thought that there was a missed opportunity to talk about dreams in IFS. But Jung has this in spades. And i was also wondering how the anima/us and archetypes fit into play when it comes to IFS.

All in all, there seems to be a lot more going on in Jung than in IFS, but the baseline for IFS is definitely there. It'll also be interesting to compare the Self in both modalities.