Minecraft redstone has changed

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Snapshot 24w33a just released and it includes some experimental changes to Minecraft redstone. Some of these changes seem really positive, others will require some redesigns of old contraptions but will still function, and some make things that were previously possible impossible. In this video I try and give my honest feedback about what's going on.

Purplers video released after I recorded, but it's probably better 😂

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TO CLARIFY: Quasi Connectivity is still in the game, just redstone dust no longer causes an update to pistons that are BUD powered. If you powered a line of pistons from above using dust on transparent blocks, the pistons will only extend when manually updated, where as previously the dust itself would update the pistons. I personally would argue this is actually more confusing to new players!

I will update this comment with good videos that also reference these changes so you can form a super balanced opinion yourselves:

Minecart change update: It may actually be harder to pick up mobs in Minecarts now, as it requires a collision which is tricky with the new hitboxes. The old system of getting a minecart close to a bunch of mobs stored in a 1x1 area does not currently work.

ThatMumboJumbo
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The minecart changes might be one of the most fun little changes they’ve made in a while

gringee
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As a programmer, I can understand why they went with "if the order can't be determined, the order will be random" as the solution. Nothing is worse than having something that works while you're making it and breaks the moment you try to move it into the real world - whether it's code or redstone involved. When something works at random, it's a lot easier to notice the problem and fix it than if something works but it's positional - you won't notice it unless you copy it to a new position. So adding randomness, in this case, seems to mostly be to help make unobvious problems become obvious.

rytan
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3:34 the redstone changes make Minecraft now isotropic seemingly like our universe. We did it boys, we’re finally making a computer simulation to prove we live in one right now

justmaybesmart
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your professional opinion on this Redstone update was much needed by the community

hamish
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So glad mumbo made it clear that this is experimental and to not get angry - because I've been seeing a lot of that due to this

FakeDogs
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One thing I like doing whenever Mojang releases a snapshot is to try building something I've built before that makes use of the new changes, just to see how it feels with the new additions. Maybe a follow-up video could focus on trying to build some of the common Redstone contraptions that are affected by the changes, and to try and figure out ways to keep them working?

Nitrinoxus
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Honestly this makes redstone make so much sense. Block updates seemed so weird to me when I was trying to learn on my own

EthelJung-jw
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“People who want to blow up their friends quickly and efficiently are absolutely devastated.” Mumbo, better go check in on Grian in this trying time

aud
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I love the calm and non-controversial nature of this appraisal. It is nice to see people approach new things with class.

ethanglaeser
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I can understand the logic behind removing updates from dust. Like, it’s misguided, but I see where they were coming from. But removing minecart stacking?? Just… why!?

Beautiful-ChihokoKunai
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THANK YOU, I've seen so much titles like "Mojan is ruining redstone" where people can go on saying that mojan is hurting the game and people can be rude and not even recognise the good in these experiments, it's refreshing and reasuring to see some constructive feed back ! Love the video, and the minecart update is verry cool, I hope they continue working in this direction for better roaller coasters!

Omni_
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For a non-movable transparent block I suggest "Redstone Glass"
Smelt Redstone in a furnace or blast furnace, get Redstone Glass blocks that would allow you to replicate the effects of current transparent blocks.

christopherwhite
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I just want the minecarts to be more friendly as a transportation option. Furnace minecarts have had the "train" feature for years but it breaks when they go around a turn. You can breed a hourse that moves faster than minecarts. I really just want to make little minecart trains full of ores or materials run all over my base doind weird jumps!

riggyz
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Bedrock player here! We over on bedrock *really* like the redstone changes, because our redstone update order is completely, 100% random! This could finally give us a logical update order!

dillonvandergriff
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Thank you for being one of the few redstoners that actually explain to the audience that these changes aren't guaranteed. The community is toxic enough as it is, and other redstoners are basically handing out pitchforks and torches.

CyborgGrizzly
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12:07 so Grian is crying in the corner

redrex
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I feel like most people fail to realise that some circuits may be broken in this snapshot because only redstone dust has the new update order, not the other components such as repeaters or comparators. For me, I’ll wait for Minecraft to work on these changes more before I’ll make my final decision.

Rubberduckboy
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6:58 This moment gave of "He is broken but he is OUR broken" vibes

Piece
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3:42 this change breaks any instant block swapper that happened to have the same power level in both pistons. Now we have to be really careful when designing 0-tick block swappers.

canolathra