Anyone Who Isn't Saved Is Going To Hell | Mark-CA | Atheist Experience 25.26

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He didn’t want a conversation. He wanted a pulpit.

KingSneed
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“Matt, stop interrupting me with questions that destroy the foundation of my bogus worldview.”

BachShakur
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Anyone who isn't saved, lives in reality.

Onganana
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Nothing tickles me more than to hear one Christian call another Christian “not a true Christian”…

stankdelicious
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What are we to be saved from?

Oh, yes. mark's god's lust for needless suffering.

Arkloyd
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Mark sounds like an adult, but speaks the words of a small child.

renejean
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Caller doesn't let host talk... Host ask him questions... Caller doesn't answer questions and instead says he is not being allowed to talk... Caller will now go and cry persecution.

TakoIbarra
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This dude LITERALLY just wanted to preach….he literally says “I just wish you’d let me talk and talk without interrupting me.”

gregwillett
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Once upon a time, a Christian told a Christian they won’t be saved. 45000 denominations later…

brunorhagalcus
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This is one of the primary things that led to my deconversion. The ambiguity and circularness of salvation, works, sin, forgiveness, etc. What I had once accepted with faith as a child, with careful thought just stopped making sense.

doleo_metal
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How dare you not follow Marks script Matt.

sideboob
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Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
Mark Twain

marct
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Billions of Christians from millions of churches with tens of thousands of denominations across hundreds of countries...ALL with different concepts and standards of salvation. Tell you what, Christians, get your story straight, then we'll talk

GRAHFXENO
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So Christians will enjoy Hitler’s company in heaven for all eternity? He was religious, near death, alone in the bunker, maybe he accepted Christ. If he did he is in heaven according to the Bible. Prove me wrong.

RetiredVet
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The all powerful creator of the universe could not come up with a better plan than scapegoating.

chrisworthman
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"that's very simple" - drones on about twenty details...

tighecrovetti
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When you are suffering with a self delusion, you assume that everyone else will also be infected with the same self delusion.

brianalmeida
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There's a 2 hour compilation of Mark's calls.I would recommend watching it to understand Mark's mentality and to fall asleep too.

e_to
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To be bluntly honest, if Christianity is the truth, (which i certainly don't believe ), i would rather spend eternity, in hell, with all the awesome people throughout history who are not going to heaven. Imagine having to spend eternity with Ray Comfort, Kent Hovid, Ken Ham, & all the rest of Thiests, who i have found to be dishonest, bigoted, judgmental, arrogant. To me a heaven full of Theists, seems more like hell.

jameswade
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I despise the whole "You were never a true Christian" response to somebody losing their faith. I got this from Ray Comfort in a a conversation I had with him last year.

As Matt points out, you can never know if you are saved. Any believer now cannot possibly know whether or not they will be one of the many who lose their faith later in life. If they do, according to this argument, they are not a true believer now. It makes a mockery of the idea that all you have to do is believe. Clearly that's not enough. You have to be able to predict the future too.

I used to be a sincere believer, and even then I worked this one out. I believed in the "once saved, always saved" idea. I could see the problems of saying somebody was never a true believer. It's a shame so many others don't get it and adopt the arrogant attitude of saying, only with hindsight, that somebody was never a believer in the first place.

philb