End of the Liberal Order & Return of War - John Mearsheimer, Alexander Mercouris & Glenn Diesen

End of the Liberal Order & Return of War - John Mearsheimer, Alexander Mercouris & Glenn Diesen

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Amazing music contribution from Peter Brown.

[numbersix]

Thanks guys.
The truth is that when the USSR disbanded, the ruling class of the imperialist West dropped the mask of civilization and went back to its characteristically barbarous, brutally violent expediency.

[Marxist]

As A Mexican American, i completely understand Russia, if I was Putin, I would not trust the U.S.

[prwchan]

What was "liberal" about invading Iraq or bombing Serbia? There was never any "liberal order", neither in the West nor anywhere else. It was smoke and mirrors.

[favesongslist]

Just a comment, Ironic that Russia was not invited to the D-day celebrations, given without Russia's help it would have failed. Yet Germany was!

[Haibing]

"The US is not interventionist"? No Latin American person could believe that

[penhdog]

The idea the US was "good at soft power" in the cold war, in which millions were bombed and murdered throughout Korea, Vietnam and Indonesia and of course Latin America, is pretty ridiculous.

[RobertInnis-bs]

The silence over the treatment of Scott Ritter is overwhelming.
You would have thought that denying an American of his constitutional rights would have been worthy of discussion.

[hansboet]

Already in februari 2014, when I was present in Kiev during the US lead coup d'etat, I was convinced that Ukraine would be much better off under the Russian wings than with the US and EU. Many Ukrainians were looking at the West through pink glasses and were very opportunistic. They thought the gates of Nirvana would open if they chose for the US and EU. I am sure when they see the better perspective in joining the Russian Federation, most of them, except the rabiate elements from Gallicia, will chose for reuniting with Russia and Bellarus again. They should distance themselves from the US, a country far away that has nothing in common with the totally different Slavic culture and couldnt care less about Ukraine. It is all about profit, power and prestige. It doesn't matter what the Neocons in the US and GB think about this! In 2014 I compared Ukraine with a husband who left his wife for a mistress that was not such a success after all and is coming home to his wife with hanging pawns and a bouquet of roses. The mistress (US/GB/EU) only used and abused him.

[nshea]

A lot of bad history here from John Mearsheimer. America has always been an expansionist imperial state. First expanding across North America, taking the lands from Native Americans and Mexico. Once the limit of that expansion was reached, expanding across the Pacific, with Gunboat diplomacy vs Japan, invading the Philippines, annexing Hawaii... etc. There was a brief period of Isolationism after WWI, but that was ended by FDR's re-ignition of imperialism, by doing everything in his power to get Japan to attack the US. The US retook the Philippines, occupied Japan..etc in the East. But also became the top Imperial power of the West....taking over Britain's imperial role in the middle east, trying to take the French imperial role in Indochina.. and so on. The competition between the Soviet Union and the US was exaggerated.. The terms of the spheres of influence of the two great powers were set out at the Yalta conference. Both largely stayed out of each other's backyards... with only a few flareups(Cuba). The US used the Soviets as a bogeyman to keep money flowing to the pentagon.(military Keynesianism to avoid another great depression). The fall of the Soviet Union took the shackles off the US for expansion into the former Soviet sphere.

[Forager-tr]

The US government will never forgive Russia for messing up the grift in Ukraine. It's very personal to them.

[elza]

Thank you for your great work, gentlemen ❤ You are the best

[garyshah]

The Greed for Power is insatiable and will not Stop of it's own accord. "They ' want It all and more all the time. We are all expendable to them.

[johannespaulfrank]

My hope is, when the global petrodollar will be history, USA are not any longer able to fight wars just for some "peanuts". Imagine the cost of wars, Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11, for American taxpayers: over six trillions wasted - for nothing.

[tomtube]

Crusader state is just a nice way of saying a Dictator state.

[peggymog]

I think it's cute how the panel spoke about the US like it has integrity. It doesn't even have internal integrity. Were it a person you'd be treating them as a mental patient suffering: delusion, paranoia and psychopathic thinking.

[ericwedin]

Nothing will really change until the US public feel some serious pain.

[antonywooster]

40:00 You will not get a permanent peace while you have a privately owned Arms industry, which has its shareholders in powerful positions. Isn't that absolutely obvious?

[greydogggg]

I disagree with Mearsheimer (around 14:00) when he says the US seeks to change other countries in its own image. That may have been true for the British Empire, but not the American hegemony. The US, since the end of WWII, has either bullied or destroyed weaker countries. The US has not installed anything other than military bases.

[lawrieyoutube]

It seems to me that it was only the fear of communism that kept the liberal order 'honest'.
The threat of an alternative system forced western oligarchic class to concede a decent and improving standard of living for western citizens. The institutions of civil society, such as publicly owned services, social safety nets, mutualised finance companies and trade unions etc. were tolerated. As was a tax structure that supported economic equity.
Once the Soviet Union collapsed, and with China not yet a superpower, all restraint on the Western capitalist oligarchic class was lifted.
Once the cold war ended, private Western capital power bodies could operate without effective restraint. Government was captured, and tax laws were heavily revised to transfer the burdens of financially supporting civil society to the lower and middle class. Privatisation and demutualisation were accelerated by legislative decree. Private media was unrestrained and peddled the views of its owners to descend into the lowest common denominator in pursuit of advertising revenue. Distractions like identity politics accelerated destruction of intellectual resistance. The power brokers then reigned supreme with no alternative, and they exploited their opportunity ruthlessly.
The result is a deep financialisation of of the social order, not just the economy, as everyone competes for status based on paper wealth, or a fight for survival.
This is how the liberal order died. With the re-emergence of a primitive, corrupt, ruling clique who are wilfully ignorant of their crimes and increasingly insecure and paranoid due to the instability of their paper wealth base.
It is ugly, uncivilised and unstable. It is no wonder that the rest of the world pours scorn on us. It is a betrayal of the heritage of reason and Western philosophy.
It took three decades to sell off the West's economic heritage and the cupboard is bare. So they cast their gluttonous eyes to the East .
But an alternative system has arisen that bases its success on equity.
Although reapplying restraints on the traitors will be long and difficult, it is necessary.
IMO.

[anoushnewman]

Three intellectual giants together. Thank you Duran .