The Incredibles 2 Is A Perfect Failure

Incredibles is great but not this film as much

[tessfabled]

I miss the kind of ominous tone present in the first movie. It has more of a sinister, mystery feel than the second... also the second one has much less of a 'retro' feel to its' overall design :c

[FernandoAlvesart]

I wish they had set the film further in the future... imagine to see violet on her early twenties, a teenager dash and a young boy jack jack... all that juicy new family dynamics and conflicts that a villian could explore against the heros...

[nellucthegreat]

I would have the villain be the opposite of syndrome. Have the villain love superheros and want them back. Have him be a villain because he wants to bring superheroes back. He doesn't care who he hurts. It could be a commentary on extremism and radicalization. Could be really cool.

[robinthrush]

I disliked how Mr. Incredible was treated a bit like he'd never really been involved in his kids' raising and was completely unprepared for caring for them. Jack Jack is fine for "not prepared, " but Dash and Violet should be fairly easy for him to deal with. Not that the commentary on Common Core with Dash's math assignment wasn't on point.

[hioman]

The biggest thing I hated about this movie was how the leat scene of the first one shows how the par's are now fighting as a family, and the second one opens with absolutely none of that

Also they did the worst thing a superhero movie can possibly do: give multiple characters super strength, so that it cancels out and they just become normal

[lil_lola]

The kids leaving the cave in the first movie had way more tension and familial fear than the second could ever hope to have.

[babyangelchii]

My biggest peeve is always that they made Violet go from a very timid and shy girl only beginning to spread her wings to hyper hormonal teenager who has outbursts every five minutes. Especially since the end of the first movie is only minutes, or hours, away from the begining of the second. And she was already very loud and obnoxious at the start of the second film.

[lilypadrocks]

I'm not gonna lie I liked incredible 2, but what I miss abt it was u could actually feel the tension, had a grey noir style feeling, and when it came to the action of the super heros you could actually feel the danger and the possibility they could get seriously injured, the best scene for me was the reveal of the amount of super heroes that were terminated like it just shows how dire the situation could get, but part 2 was just to bright the action felt fast and timid with no sought of weight and intention in it

[firebat]

I saw the second one first cause I didn’t grow up with the first and I thought it was fine. Later on I watched the first after hearing so much about it and it’s such a classic good movie even with all the super hero saturation. There is a lot of passion in the first one while the second feels so by the numbers of what you can find any basic kids movie.

[starwarsfan]

True. This film was so surface and meh. It would have been great if it was made with a purpose other than "sequel." I'd have loved to have seen college-aged Violet and Dash trying to deal with growing up. Dash is a perpetual child, while Violet is struggling with anxiety-depression. Bob and Helene want to help, but realize this is one place they cannot be heroes in, swooping in to save the day.

[-Naraza-]

I think missing the adult tone perfectly describes what was wrong with this movie. In the first Movie, Helen says, to Paraphrase "These guys aren't like your Saturday Morning Cartoons", wheres this one did feel like that. Which was a shame, because I was hyped for it

[SithLadyDarhVamp]

What would have been lovely is the original Incredibles animated in the sequel's style. That would be breath taking.

[mariocordiano]

ill never forget recently my nephew came over and my fam turned on the incredibles, he got bored and went downstairs to play while me and my dad were glued to the couch watching the incredibles. It seriously had such adult themes as it touched on marital issues (elastigirl thinking bob was cheating on her) and the mass genocide of supers. Incredibles two was literally targeted towards children, which is fine, but it wasnt even close to the first

[BlokHeadAnim]

Not gonna lie, I really thought that Screenslaver was going to be Rick, the government agent. He "goes on vacation" right as Screenslaver shows up, we know he has access to mind-altering government technology, he's been set up in the first movie and has a level of mystery around him but had been established as a friend to the family nonetheless. The plot would have been way more interesting if Rick saw public opinion going against supers once more and decided to invent a supervillain for the Incredibles to defeat to keep public opinion high and thus make his own job easier. It would have shown an interesting way in which a "pro-super" person, and someone trusted as a public servant, could abuse their power--pulling Syndrome-like tactics, but in a way that is technically beneficial to the Incredibles. They could have even kept the commentary at the end where Screenslaver doesn't even really get in too much trouble for what they did--not because they're rich, but because they're a government agent with impunity. It would have worked so much better with continuing the themes of the first film.

[_enki]

you know, thinking about it, syndrome kinda has the right idea that regardless of superpowers, people should be able to become superheroes as well. he went about it in a villainous way, but he had a point, because him not having powers was the reason why bob wouldn't take him in as a sidekick (because it was dangerous for both of them). i was hoping that the sequel would actually explore that idea once again, and start with the incredibles becoming so loved and popular and needed to the point that most of their time are dedicated to the city rather than for their family, doing normal family things. thus, there could be a conflict between the importance of saving the day and being with their loved ones. simultaneously, people see the incredibles and are inspired to also become heroes, but couldn't because they don't have powers. suddenly there's a guy who is distributing a superserum that could make people superheroes. he is the villain but not a completely bad guy, just jealous like syndrome, because he wants to be a superhero to help people. instead the serum backfires and makes monsters out of the people. the serum also affects the supers, making them lose their powers completely. they team up with an underground group of people developing an antidote, and together they stop the monster pandemic and save everyone. the parr family all lost their powers in the process, but showed that even normal people can become superheroes without the superserum or superpowers, but by being themselves. they eventually retire as superheroes and become a normal family, however they never stop helping people by showing off new skills they learned while not having powers.

that's honesty what i dreamed of for the sequel before the actual news of the sequel dropped. it's far off from what i imagined, but i guess the film is okay. i still think syndrome has a point, and evelyn is kinda right when she says that the city depended too much on the supers. but eh, the film is okay.

[natecgames]

The first film had more going on in its story in general. It wasn't afraid to tell the audience of mostly children subjects that only their parents would get through Bob and Helen. It also wasn't afraid to make the situation grim and threatening as it needed to be. It's one of the only Pixar movies with a kill count, and I'd you don't get the heroes being terminated. You'll definitely understand when syndrome gets shredded in a fan blade. The second couldn't live up to that tension and commentary because Pixar figured out they didn't need to try after they made a sequel to cars and it still did decent.

[ShadowSaberBaroxio]

Imagine an alternate storyline, where Evelyn Dever is the same, but her brother Winston is the real big bad, wanting to draw out all of the remaining Supers in order to straight up kill them, or worse, synthesize something that would permanently generify ALL Supers worldwide. "No more Supers."

[punisheranimations]

I have to say, I hated how they treated mr incredible in this one, making him get tossed around by F tier heroes and handled by his wife and kids.

[PokeMaster]

Y'know, there was an "The Incredibles 2" game released a decade ago, for Windows XP and GameCube (and maybe other platforms), that had the Underminer as the villain, and starred Mr. Incredible and Frozone as the two playable characters. It was a pretty simple beat-em-up type game, with basic puzzles, but it was a 2P-coop game that was quite fun for a much younger me.

That game is a thousand times better than the movie we eventually received.

[SmoistAbyss]

i think it would be nicer if Evelyn parents were killed by the superheroes that they trusted, showing just because they are super, does not mean they are good, causing the so called supers becoming illegal