WARFRAME | Indifference and The Psychological, Lovecraftian Horror of the Man in the Wall

Well... Considering the day... I thought we might talk about all the little things that go into making The man in the wall so unsettling, and let me tell you DE is hitting us in all the vulnerable spots at once with this one. We can't help but be uncomfortable around him...

#tennocreate #whispersinthewalls #warframe

[simmrdspice]

There's a clever bit of irony in the concept of the Indifference bringing the Tenno into the uncanny valley. There's almost certinly a degree of transhuman dread the humanoid characters feelwhen looking at our warframes... operating, and yet even we have something inhuman yet so mockingly human in its action that we have to fear as well.

[securatyyy]

When you first meet wally on the zariman, there is some interesting dialogue that is easily overlooked. Your tenno had picked up one of those globe lights, you check on the room, you approach wally. Your tenno says "i think you lost your light, here you can have mine" wally says "thanks kiddo, i think i will"

Always thought that had some deeper meaning.

[lordmalecith]

I sure do love existential dread and unknowable eldritch horrors from outside the universe

[LilFeralGangrel]

Just a small correction: there is no proper pronunciation of Cthulhu. Which is intentional because the names of those elder beings were not meant for human minds or mouths. Lovecraft wanted his imagined horrors to be truly alien, despite his faults he understood how terrifying the unknown is.

[Dafuro]

I think the void is very warplike in that I don't think the indifference existed until Albrecht made contact and fell into it. I think indifference as a being was created the moment Albrecht saw the reflection of himself in the void, the intense fear of the unknowable growing with each moment the thing in front of him starts mimicking, first his looks, then his voice and memories and then it kept growing with the subconscious dread of an uncaring and empty dimension twisting and warping him from the insides. I think he opened Pandora's box and every second he was in the void was just like opening five more Pandora's boxes.

[wizardwolf]

The more I see the Man in The Wall act or take part in the story, the more I get the feeling that he’s simply adjusting chess pieces to achieve an inevitable outcome where he gets what he wants. That no matter what we do, it’s inevitable that the Man in the Wall will succeed and that all we’ve been able to achieve was just slowing him down and prolonging the inevitable whether it be Rell keeping TMITW’s “gaze”, beating back the Angels of Zahriman, or the breaking off of the Duviri islands once they showed signs of TMITW influence and invading.

[Jinx-]

The more I watch of TheDsIEGE the more I appreciate Warframe as a whole.

[cjd]

One of the scariest moments I have ever seen put to film was in "The Strangers". At the end of the film this family of killers in animal masks slaughters a woman's husband in front of her and makes her watch. When she screams, "Why?! Why are you doing this?!" one of the family members pulls up her mask to reveal that she is just a teenage girl and says with a smile, "Because we can." It's the horror of an enemy that has no deeper motivation, that can't be reasoned, bribed or bargained with. In truth it's probably the same dread a Corpus or Grineer feels when they see a Warframe.

[Cosmiccakecat]

The editing, the transitions, chills man, literal chills. Great job man.

[JackChronicle]

Eldritch horrors are my favorite kind of terror. Just an existential dread that normal horror can't scratch

[NeedsContent]

I think the Man In The Wall manifests as our Warframe powers. Literally destroying countless lives every time we start a mission. We know Transference and our Warframe abilities are only possible via "void magic." It's not a stretch to think Man plays an active hand in this.

[TheDsIEGE]

Be Prepared. Also... Happy Halloween KiDdO...

[balazsdusek]

bro just showed up during the final battle of our current storyline with such power that the main boss and the chapion defeating him could basically not even stand, said some words and left. he's more powerful than everything we've seen so far

[nulls]

I feel like The Indifference is less like it’s always watching us as more like it’s constantly aware of us. Kinda like the interactions with the main antagonist of system shock and the player, we’re practically a little insect crawling around under The Indifference’s skin. Since they’re potentially the conscious of the void itself that’s a reality atop our own. And at anytime can crush us into nothingness, especially due to our deal with them.

In the story of warframe we’re not the equivalent of the tau or the imperium of man, not even the eldar, orks or the tyrannids being the sentient’s roll to play. But the mindless necron foot soldier, we might be funny if you’re one of us or allied to us - but to others were a terrifying, ancient war machine that’s nearly impossible to kill with our basic weapons being insanely powerful and kill anything in our way without ever saying a word. And at anytime the one who stands above us can do as he pleases with us. Saying were good or evil kinda loses its meaning, when were the chosen one of a god who just couldn’t care.

Are we even alive anymore or just the living idea of ourselves from before the deal - like the difter is to dominus thrax?

In other words, Were the jrpg puppet dictator of a dark god. Frown aside once formalities are no longer needed to start the final boss.

[clericalheretic]

Ah yes, my favorite eldritch horror deity, Calulu

[cagebusterjapan]

I am glad you are talking in depth about indifference. It is something I struggle with on a daily basis.

[seriftheskeleton]

That Jumpscare was uncalled for but it did help with the theory.

[thebatman]

Nah the transition from rell to the great indifference is built different

[rilius]

The Man in the wall could be like a kid scorching ants with a magnifying glass. Also one thing that originally made me fall for Warframe is the fact that it is a looter shooter that on first glance doesn't look like it has anything deep to it. But when you take the time to dive into it, you realize that what looked like just a looter shooter has so much more depth than some rpg games.

[KingBradyFMA]

I get such joy when you release new videos, thank you for all the effort you put forth in your content, I appreciate you greatly!