You Won't BELIEVE What Boeing Did To Their Workers!

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Boeing's latest strike was the most costly labour conflict in the United States for over 25 years. Not only because of how long it lasted, but also because of Boeing's central role in the aviation industry.

So what REALLY happened here?
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[RocketmanSK]

Thanks Petter. As a Boeing engineer with over 27 years with the company, think your analysis and observations are spot-on. I see Boeing's slow and very public downfall as analogous to a 737 MAX with MCAS prior to the fixes. The employees (pilots) see the plane starting to go down and try to correct it. The company management (MCAS) says, "nothing wrong here, we're going to keep pushing the nose down and there's nothing you can do about it". The pilots pull back harder, but the plane keeps overriding them until eventually Boeing is just a smoking hole in the US economy.

I received my layoff notice last week. For me, it's really just an early forced retirement, as I was going to retire next year anyway. I'm just glad I'm getting off this ride before it totally breaks down. It's just not fun anymore.

[bobdillaber]

Boeing:
Where "Doing more with less"
means, "I get more. You get less."

[TheGodpharma]

The idea that the starting pay for people building aircraft could be similar to that of a barista or Amazon warehouse employee is absolutely mind-boggling.

[andyharpist]

Let us never forget, John Barnett, 62, found dead by apparent suicide in March 2024. Barnett was a long-time employee who raised concerns about Boeing's safety and production standards. Joshua Dean, auditor, died May 2024.

[murrethmedia]

This isn't just a Boeing problem, it's a corporation problem. The world DESPERATELY needs corporate reform.

[nickjohnson]

Meanwhile... huge bonuses for Boeing executives are still a thing...

[PNW_Green_Gaming]

I’m a Quality Assurance Inspector in the Renton plant and I can tell you first hand it’s a freaking mess. First line managers with the mentality of quantity over quality. Just push push push push. They pressure the machinists to do the wrong thing without directly telling them to cut corners. The quality of workers we have is abysmal as after the two 737’s crashed and Boeing had to layoff due to the plane being grounded then Covid swept the globe Boeing was hurting. When they started to recall workers late 2021 only a fraction came back. Leaving Boeing no other option other then lowering the barrier of entry hiring literally anyone that applied. No aerospace background, no machinist background, no anything. We have mechanics that don’t know how to properly hold power tools let alone use them. It’s scary. What kind of talent is Boeing going to get when if you have an aerospace background you definitely aren’t applying at Boeing to make $21 an hour then only get $1 dollar raises each year on top of waiting 6 years to max out pay.. The morale is low in the workers. We are underpaid, undertrained, and got screwed again on this latest contract negotiation. The FAA is not doing enough in my opinion. Even with their presence in the factory. Come talk to the workers. See how much they don’t know when mechanics do not know how to find engineer drawings or find the proper applicable specs that have the right torque value for the job they are trying to perform. It’s so scary. It’s only a matter of time..

[dramspringfeald]

"you wouldn't believe what Boeing would do to their employees"

Eh .. we can hazard a guess

[divetank]

Great to see so many Boeing employees past and present in the comments. PLS keep talking about the problems. The flying public is depending on you. ❤

[jimpern]

I worked as a visiting engineer at Boeing in 1979-80 (on the 767) and 1991-92 (on the 777) and the engineers (who uniquely were also unionized) seemed quite happy. Alan Mulally was the program head on the 777 and gave all program people a pocket card with 21 program goals, the last of which said "Have Fun"! I think that, as you suggest, that the McDonnell Douglas acquisition was the time things began to go downhill.

[yamato]

I’ll never forgive Jack Welch. I’m not a religious person, but if hell exists there’s a special seat just for him. He and his cronies poisoned and destroyed everything they touched. And they’re still sitting back in their air conditioned offices as their company bleeds to death and their workers are depressed and miserable.

[jimbobur]

I feel like the Boeing story is a microcosm of the general labour market in many countries - real wages have stagnated for decades whilst the top echelons continue to award themselves higher and higher pay.

[jim.pearsall]

My father was a manager at the Boeing Renton plant working there from 1978 to 2004. He was Director of Quality Assurance and Customer Warranty. The culture in the company has totally flipped and you are 100% correct in your assessment of the current Boeing Company. So sad. 👎🏻

[bradleyhalfacre]

I am an Australian trades person, I was making $21 an hour in 1990! When I retired six years ago I was making $55 an hour, so much for the American dream.

[mikede]

That McDonnel Douglas merger is the gift that keeps on giving....what a disgrace.

[ItsAVolcano]

I blame modern MBA schooling and it's flawed view that labor is simply interchangeable, rejecting the value of any skilled labor as simply greedy employees.

[TheLexluthier]

It's not just Boeing, it's pretty much all manufacturing in the USA. I worked for a Scandinavian owned company in the US, and it was a great place to work. It was difficult work with tight deadlines, but the employees took pride in their work and we made a great product. The customers were very happy. Then a US conglomerate bought the company and within 3 months they completely destroyed the company culture, treated the employees like garbage, and people started leaving in droves. I was one of them. Quality went downhill fast with the replacement workers, and customers were not happy. They shifted production to Mexico, but the quality was so bad they had to move production again to China. It was a death spiral. The entire conglomerate went bankrupt a few years later.

[aliancemd]

As a software engineer, started recently to work for a US company(having worked ~10 years for European companies) and these guys treat their employees like slaves: no concept of free/personal time(was even asked once to enter a meeting at 03:00 AM and then were disgruntled that I refused), constantly remind employees that they don’t like when they take vacations, etc… The Germans expected you to respect their personal time(can’t contact 30 minutes before work day ends) and they respected yours

[jimstone]

When you get rid of the employees that know and have solved all the contruction problems you had, you end up with people that have no clue what they are doing.

[georgieippolito]

The problem here in America is rich criminals don't get locked up. they can just buy their crimes!