UNBOXING - Vittoria Corsa Pro Care Package

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[pcdude]

I have 32c tubeless slick tires on my gravel bike for road riding. For road riding, I am weekend warrior and I put in 50 miles a week, therefore the chance of me getting a flat is slim.
I just don't understand why companies are using mtb technology on road bikes when roadies are supposed to be weight weenie. Putting a noodle inside your road tires with sealant is just adding more weight. You still have to open up your tire when you get home and patch it. I am a mountain biker at heart and I don't even use noodle on my trail mtb. If you're logging in 200 miles, tube tires makes more sense. You can put on new tube in your tire and be on merry way with full pressure rather than turtling your way home from the middle of no where. Btw, appreciate you using your shop as a test lab for us viewers. 😁

[rosomak]

On very long rides one could use an old school solution: two tubes. When one blows you just pump up the second one. Works with latex tubes quite well. Of course you need a wheel with two ventil holes opposite each other.

[samsepiol]

Just mounted a pair of Corsa N.EXT tube version on my wheels. 28 mm on the front and 32 mm on the rear. Im looking forward to try them out tomorrow

[itsok]

Hi George. Been following your content for a while and first time post. I truly appreciate your honesty, objectivity, and humor about all this cycling stuff. I happen to agree with you whole heartedly about NOT going tubeless with road tires (especially when using 25c or 28c). The pressures are too high for practical use of tubeless. Tubeless should stay for gravel, cross, and Mt. Bikes. Period. I can change a flat in 2 minutes and either patch the tube (saves money versus using a new $5.00 tube) or replace the tube. NO mess. No fuss. Back on the bike. Rim brakes I might add. In addition, while my primary goal is longevity of my road racing bike plus it's drivetrain, I stopped waxing my chain. IMHO, it's NOT worth the hassle. My objective is to wake up and RIDE (far and fast) and anything that interferes in that mission is a complete failure. I currently use Silica synergetic wet lube. And even though I mostly (95%) ride in dry conditions (Philadelphia), the lube is amazing. It works; it delays breakdown of drivetrain - everything I want it to do. Yeah, Yeah, people say but it gets so dirty. Actually, NO it does not, just wipe down (takes <1 min) before each ride or after each ride with a micro fiber cloth. That's all. Keep up the great content. Hope your channel continues to grow. I'll be in LA next week for Jr. Track Nationals (my daughter racing), but just wanted to say thanks!

[MrSandperson]

So for road tubeless...we remove the tube, then add sealant...and now we add a foam insert. Maybe next we can package the foam insert and sealant in a tube to make installation easy? 😛

I can't wait for the video on installing the air liners. From what I've heard (never done it myself), they're a pain.

Tubeless seems more and more like a race day application. If you puncture with clinchers, you're out of the running. If you puncture with tubeless, MAYBE you can maintain position and finish.

[johnkasza]

As a subscriber, i enjoy your experiences to help discern the hype of marketing consumers deal with...one note..as a silica wax user for the last 2 years, they recommend a renewal after about 1000 k and top off after about 300 k..i run 2 chains..change once a month and re-lube once a week, not bad..also bicycle rolling resistance site just dropped a review of the Rene tires you're using if interested..

[dsonyay]

Regarding tubeless: I’m still rather new to the conversion.

But the past 1800 miles I had 2 incidents- a bad sidewall puncture that did not seal, even after a plug was inserted (the second ride on tubeless!). Had to buy a new tire.

Then a week or so ago I ran over a
Small piece of metal.. was a slow leak and was slow to seal.. so I did the dynaplug. I had recently got these plugs. Worked like a charm. Was able to pump back up and continue on. Plug is still holding up well. Love dynaplugs so far. Sealant used is “Orange “ brand.

Tires are 25mm at 85-90 psi. I have not had a tiny enough puncture (ie small nail) to observe whether or not the sealant will do its job.

But yeah.. so far, I’m actually 0-2 on sealant actually working. LoL.

[raulmarquez]

You are right on the chain waxing needing to be re-waxed too often if you ride a lot. I just wipe down my chain after every ride and re-lube; easy takes couple minutes and keeps chain fairly clean.
I carry two inner tubes and a patch kit when I ride, seems like overkill for sealant and foam inserts on road bike.
I get that people don’t want to deal with flat tires, but with two tire levers, it doesn’t take too long to change inner tube.
Happy riding George and waiting to see how your experience goes with the Vittoria products. 🚴🏻‍♂️

[rosomak]

Personally I recommend vittoria road bike tires as well. The ride comfort thing I don't get anyway. However I found them to be quite puncture safe.

[willdtw]

Vittoria airliner road is where it's at! I have 4, 000+ miles riding them. Only had to use dynaplug 4 or 5 times. Now that's all I carry for myself. I just add another 40 ml of sealant every 3 or 4 months. I've ridden home on a flat tire twice. Been working in bike shops for the last 6+ years. I can change an inner tube in less than 2 minutes but after riding lower pressures with the tubeless tires I won't go back. Who wants to ever have to throw an inner tube into that goopy mess on the roadside? Not me. Tubeless road is getting super popular but I don't know why more people aren't trying these out. They start at 27 grams. My bike is 16 pounds so I try to be as much of a weight weenie as possible but these are more than worth it to me. I picked up a KOM the other day so I'm not feeling any negatives to the system at all. It's a little harder to set up up but you save all that time and then some by having less road side maintenance. The first time it took me quite a while but after doing it a few times I can set up a pair of tires and liners in about 20 minutes in the shop. So 20 minutes in the shop is saving me 20-120 minutes of annual road side maintenance. These are a 100% no brainer for me and I would never ride tubeless road without them. I've heard dozens of people say how stupid they are but I've never met a person that rode them that said that. Maybe those guys just like to take a messy break during their rides.

[dsonyay]

Hey, just wanted to let you know that 23 mm tires are alive and well.. matter fact, I just upgraded to 25s on my caad 9 lol. There are plenty of 23 mm tires still being made, and sold apparently.

[thomaskuhn]

I understand liners for MTB and gravel, but not for road. Does that liner not restrict the flow of sealant making it less efficient for the sealant to reach and properly seal the tire if it punctures? Also, as GV mentioned, what are you going to do if the puncture is so bad that you need to pull the liner and put in a tube? Liners are just a huge cash grab, the price is absurd for what it is.

[billgibbs]

Hi George, regarding tubeless quite a few years ago when I set up my ritchey road logic I purchased some Shimano wheels not realizing that they were tubeless ready and set them up with tubes. As time passed I had the usual punctures and on the roadside to break the bead was a real hassle. I believe this was because the rims were tubeless ready and a tight fit. That's when I went to tubeless and after a couple of minor issues learning about set up they have worked fine. On two occasions I did need to fit a tube on the roadside but the bead broke quite easily, I assume the moist sealant worked as a lube but there have been many rides that have uninterrupted when the sealant has done it's job. For context they are 28 tyres but I am in the process of going to 30 just because the bike also goes on gravel. Also I use latex tubes on my race wheels so I believe different set ups suit different situations.
Thanks for your videos, Bill from NZ

[Silidons]

Be careful with those. I loved them too, but when you need to change your tire...I cracked a carbon rim trying to get my tire off, using the tool I purchased from Vittoria. Had to toss em. $900 down the drain. I went back to tubes. Probably works great for larger volume tires (like above 700x35c) but for 700x30c and lower, it's insanely difficult to get the tire off (on is not hard at all) with the insert in them.

[jackiegammon]

Another option is the Corsa NEXT, it comes in tubeless or a clincher. I bought clinchers, but have not installed just yet. I'm anxious to get them on here soon.

[morganconey]

Tubeless: set up is a lottery, can be a real pain in the ass. Once you cross that hurdle it rolls notably faster and comfort is improved. If you get a puncture and it seals happy days! But when it fails, putting a tube in a gooey tire is a rubbish job. That's before we get into the bike cleanup. Don't forget the ongoing maintenance of topping up sealant. Overall for ease of use tubes win, tubeless may be worth exploring but you have to be aware for every up there is a down.

[yendoradon]

Thanks, I will buy Victoria tire liner and sealant to try

[roberts]

First, subscribed to your channel a few months back. Enjoy your candid review of products. Interested in a follow up review of the Corsa Pro tires. Don’t run tubeless on my road bikes to much hassle if sealant fails and then having to deal with a tube. Been there and said never again.

[jonwarren]

Looking forward to the post ride assessment! I saw something like this the other day in my local bike shop. The foam insert seems a weird to me.

[artDDS]

Use silca sealant for road tires/pressures. Works great for road pressures. They use bits of carbon fiber in the sealant to create seal. I didn’t believe in road tubeless till i started using silca. Completely trust my sealant now.