3 Months with Ableton Live 12 - Should You Upgrade?

Hi friends! In this video I go through my thoughts on Live 12 and whether or not you should upgrade. :)

Hey, my name's Matt, AKA Martiln, and I'm an electronic music producer, educator and Ableton Certified Trainer from Australia. I love making music and crazy sounds, and I love helping other people learn how to do both of those things too! I also am the creator of a crazy sci-fantasy world and musical storytelling universe called REALMS. If you like what I do, you can support me in all the usual ways or by shouting me a coffee over on my Buy Me A Coffee page.

Much love! 🥰

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⏰ Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:16 - MIDI Editing
3:43 - Roar
5:08 - Visual Updates
6:04 - Other Minor Favourites
7:05 - Scale Awareness
8:33 - MIDI Tools
10:36 - Modulators
12:32 - Meld
14:29 - The Browser
16:09 - Navigation Updates
18:03 - Should You Upgrade?

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[matttinklermusic]

If you have any questions about Live 12, comment below and I'll do my best to answer them either here or in an upcoming video! :)

[joechapman]

This is a great tour of Live 12. Thanks for the honest assessment of the good and the less good!

[antic]

Great video! Few thoughts :)

4:50 - if you miss MIDI control for Roar you can always use the modulators that respond to MIDI, incl. Expression Control where you can key-track MIDI and use it to modulate something.

5:43 - there's no view like that, where you can see TWO lines for devices. That is probably a mock-up someone did for feature request :)

7:20 - scale awareness is a good first steps, but we should be able to automate / sequence it and it should transpose & fit to scale the clips accordingly; like a chord track in S1 or Cubase

15:20 - 100% agree :)

[ricardojmestre]

Oh no, that browser change is a deal breaker for me. Thanks for the video! I will stay in 11.

[LukeLine]

Great review… I’m still using Live 10 Suite but considering the update still 😅 Subbed!

[InnerMotionMusic]

I've been using the beta for a little over a week and had the same complaint about the browser. I'm *_really_* hoping they add the folders in the official release.
Great video - thanks for the insight!

[VentureNW]

We've been posting tons of threads in the suggestions and none seem to be getting addressed. I highly doubt much is going to change, unfortunately. One of the big ones is more collections - there is no reason we should be limited to 7, imo.

[davide.]

Well done mate- that’s a proper review

[rhythmusmensch]

I will definitely do the update because I think the new options are very good. I also think that you have to support the company. Without money there is no progress.
Greetings from Germany

[Streck_]

I'm a little torn. Simultaneous clip and device view is something I've wanted ever since I first opened Ableton. Mixer in arrangement view is in the same ballpark. The rest doesn't really excite me and the browser seems a little off-putting. Btw, things like Roar and Meld are only in the Suite edition, right?

[kristianwest]

@martiln Hey, thanks for this. Just wanted to ask you what mic you are using? Pretty low noise factor!

[Nachofercri]

Hi! What’s the price of upgrading Ableton? As I’m new I’m not aware of those things, thank you very much, great video!

[damian]

Upgraded from Live Suite 9 (2013) to Live Standard 11/12 and notice an enormous improvement and really snappy opening and closing...though will not go to Suite !2 because the features critiqued here are mostly not in Standard...

[baconbenjidestroyer]

As someone who got it the moment it came out, I would wait a bit longer. The price sucks, the new tag system sucks, for me it is less stable, some of the new features have been standard in other DAWs for years such as the MIDI stuff. And still new auto-tune kind of feature while FL Studio has Pitcher AND New Tone? Like come on.

[PolymerJones]

In my opinion it’s a sad state of affairs for editing software in general, minor changes are sold and touted as a big deal meanwhile all of our endless gripes remain, across the board, NLEs, DAWs

[agentmse]

does anyone know how to automate parameters for plugins on a return track in ableton 12 please? Its driving me nuts trying to figure it out!!!

[raphexe]

I bet all the features you can think of are already functional and ready to go, but they rather sell them little by little with each version.

[edeltobi]

what is "right around the corner"? I should have applied for beta.... a joke

[lwpweb]

it is worth the ultra fast startup time using a m2 mac. No colored balls to wait for, as it was in 11.3 . You klick it, and you are, how the americans say: good to go.

[carl-tctw]

Can you please test the performance of LIVE 12? For example, what is the maximum number of tracks it can handle? Thanks.