What is Aether and Why Do We Need It?

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We need the modern Aether so we can stop using imaginary action at a distance theory, and here are some of the basic requirements.

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Nikola Tesla once said ''All existing matter are just bubbles in ocean of Ether''.

And I would say- if water waves can't exist without water and wind can't exist without air, then there must be something that when it gets turbulent manifest itself as light and other electromagnetic waves.

neskrafe
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Thanks to you Ray, i am working on a dipole model of vacuum. With this model, i can compute their polarizability and then compute the vacuum permittivity. I should do the same for permeability also... in principle.
What I can say is that we need négative mass, otherwise for massless particles, we do not know any force. With négative mass and électrostatic force, using poisson equation for electron distribution, we can arrive at total zéro energy states, zéro mass, zéro charge, zéro spin whichbis mandatory.
The oscillator, photons, or whatever, not bounded Led to QED and the normalisation issues that we know

mathoph
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FYI, Ray Fleming has passed away, early 2024. Info in the comments in his last video posted on his channel here. He was a great contrarian thinker in physics imo.

Personally i believe in a moving ether, towards material objects, and therefore creating gravity that way (drag on other matter objects). If it is/contains energy, why shouldn't it behave like material objects of energy (mass) ? This hypothesis also makes much sense if one compares the time dilation equations, "velocity" time dilation (which actually is acceleration time dilation, v^2 is an acceleration variable, 2 x acceleration x distance, Newton) and gravitational time dilation. Via the escape velocity equation they are the same equation, and represent the same physical process down to the atom/ether level. A free fall is a movement anywhere in space of a matter object following what the moving ether wants to do with it, which in turn follows what matter around it wants to do with the ether. A small object is therefore drawn to a bigger object. When matter following ether (not accelerating against it), there's no physical time dilation (slowing down of rate of change in atoms), otherwise there is. An additional more speculative hypothesis is that light gets tired when moving in space, so the redshift of distant objects could (at least partly) be explained by light giving back energy to the ether from matter. From objects like quasars that contribution of energy could be huge, compensating for the ether energy "sucked in" by all matter objects.

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This is a very valuable collection of the properties that an aether must have. Thank you Dr. Fleming!!!

metallothionein
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Dipole dilation around celestial bodies (around and inside all matter, actually) is our gravity model.

When we commenced artificial gravity device work, we used this physical analog for propellant-free acceleration (aka gravity):

1) a submarine has a powerful heat system mounted at its front
2) when switched on, the seawater adjacent the sub's nose is converted to steam, resulting in a huge drop in density of the (seawater) medium
3) the ambient water pressure/density at the rear is unchanged so the sub accelerates forward

Dipole dilation, resulting from these steps, achieves a drop in dipole-per-unit volume next to the test rig, reducing the recoil/momentum loss that occurs during the coupling between atoms and free space dipoles, creating an artificial gravity on that side:

1) the Lorentz force (created by E x B imposed the metal of the device by a vertical B field and horizontal/radial RF currents)
2) coherent electric polarization of the charged particles in the metal couples to the free space dipoles and induces dilation ('stretch'), increasing the distance between the particle and antiparticle - ie. the electric charge being added to the hull's electric dipoles couples to the free space dipoles
3) magnetic dipole polarization in the metal also couples to, and aligns the magnetic moments of the particle/antiparticle in the free space dipoles

The Earth and other celestial bodies have 'weak' gravity because there is no coherence imposed on its atoms. The E x B Lorentz force coherence imposed in the metal of the device allows the metal to 'punch above its weight' in terms of gravity field strength.

Our supposition is that dipole dilation (gravity) around a non-cohered celestial body originates from the accelerations of the immense number of charged particles in the atoms in the body. Gravity for non-cohered (non-E x B) collections of atoms is a 'remnant' dilation of dipoles. A small dilation (stretch), not coherent in nature, and has historically been perceived as 'weak.'

Electromagnets can create a wide range of field strength. Artificial gravity devices can create a range of coherent dipole dilation (cohered gravity) in a similar way.
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Greg_Chase
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The contraction of matter which leads to the null result in the MM experiment seems to me simply to prove the universality of the ether, rather than its non-existence.
It only proves that the forces binding the constituents of matter are mediated through the ether itself.

relativemotion
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Ray, I'm so glad I found you. It's rare to find folks in physics who delve into such things and I look forward to using use as a source. Subed :)

AltcoinAnalysis
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Theories of relativity are often described as anti-aether due to their rejection of the luminiferous aether as an absolute frame of reference for the motion and propagation of light. So I don't understand why you mix relativistic theories with the ether, time is just movement, and the fact that there is difficulty in measuring movement does not mean that "time" is intrinsically relativistic, with improvement and better measurements of movement, relativity tends to become more and more useless, there is the possibility of synchronizing clocks in a single frame of reference

bobkowalski
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The assumption of the nature of the ether which was addressed by the Michelson-Morley experiment was not a "bad" assumption. It was the natural conclusion when the lack of drag was realized. If matter and light do not affect the ether, then what could disturb it? To assume that there are "ether-disturbers" which cannot be detected isn't a real good idea.

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I don't think the universe works the way physicists think it does at all. Everything is about frequency. You can take a speaker, turn it so that it faces the ceiling, then take a sheet of plate glass and put it on top of the speaker then pour sand on the speaker and play various frequencies of sound. Depending on which frequency is played, the pattern of the sand will change. The various frequencies cause both constructive and destructive interference patterns. Each location on the plate glass is experiencing different forces, even though the same frequency vibration is occurring throughout the entire plate glass. The same exact thing happens in the electromagnetic field. You do not need all of these positive and negative particles for polarity. The sound waves are not causing positive and negative particles to form in the sand on the plate glass. Polarity is not about charge, it is about the direction of field rotation, aka convergence or divergence; aka positive field interference and negative field interference. Most of what we observe is emergent phenomena. Physicists get it wrong by pretending emergent phenomena are primary phenomena and contrive particles to act as the mediators for such phenomena when none are actually necessary.

wesbaumguardner
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Interesting that you're essentially trying to bridge the two competing theories of aether vs empty space quantum field. Schrodinger was convinced that his wave mechanics discarded the need to quantize anything in the experimental observations that had been made. I'm guessing he may have ascribed to an aether concept if he was fully on the side of waves being sufficient to explain electromagnetic phenomena.

seinfan
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I definitely think that the aether is real, I just question it's actuality. I lean mostly in the direction of the aether being an actualization of the apeiron, with the apeiron being the primary matter or substance of pure potential; completely indefinite, and the aether being the secondary matter, or *actualization* of that potential into a definite form. It's the distinction between substance and form. All secondary matter has both.

The "quantumness" of the field is an emergent property, not an intrinsic one.

bitskit
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My problem is that i do not fully understand maxwell's equations and electromagnetic wave equations.

ChandrasegaranNarasimhan
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In gnosticism the spiritual science is based on transubstantiating the physical matter to an aetherized body which is called a light body, solar body, resurrection body in other references.

BNJAMN
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mass is inertia so e=mc^2 implies that "light" causes inertia.
Mike McCulloch (although he is not an etherist) he still explains good stuff and he mentions that "dark matter" is more of a light thing.

So it follows that this medium for light is also for inertia and its "spin" (if its neutrino-antineutrino or neutrino-neutrino spinning) is what causes gravity... The more they are contracted, the more they give rotation and also, since they are contracted and spin they are harder to move so speed of light slows down which we percieve as clocks slowing

manipulativer
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First, aether is only one of three possible models and in my opinion, has too many problems. The light model proposed by Robert de Hilster does not have the problems of aether. The biggest problem to aether for me is that it Has to stay in one place. Why and how does it stay in a place? There is no container. Water and air have a gravitational container. Aether does not. For Aether particles to be a medium, they Have to be pretty much stationary compared even to the speed of light. No one talks about that. How and why would it stay in a place and in a place as compared to what? No one talks about how lasers can’t be described using aether. These are huge problems. Everybody talks about all the nuances, but ignore the fourteen 800 gorillas in the room.

dehilster
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Ray, I am fascinated by your critique of the Big Bang and your explanations of the QFT and the QED. Please help me understand/ visualize the process of what happens after the perturbation of the QF that creates, for example, a proton that results ultimately in a large massive object like a star. Does the particle after being created, detach from the QF and then float, condense and accumulate and form classical matter? Or, is classical matter just an extreme and dense perturbation in the QF? Thank you in advance for your kind response.

Baka_Komuso
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So is the earth an enclosed system dielectric plane?

whataworld
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Super great presentation ! Thanks for sharing. What is your view on the Holographic Principle as presented by Alex Isakov?

JohnSix-re
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Though I think this constant going back to corpuscular objects in "empty" will always fail and instead think of it as a totally continuous fluid, without elemental particles. The same way a FIELD is continuous. The number field will always have a number in between any two numbers. Nobody questions this but space itself can't be continuous?

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