Was 1821 a Greek Revolution or a War of Independence?

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[SimonBaddeley]

Ah yes. Was it a 'revolution', a 'rebirth' or a 'war of independence', two of these or all three? Let that be argued between the spirits of Mavrochordatos, Ypsilantis, Kolokotronis, Kapodistrias and many other of the great players. I am insatiably curious about the history of beloved Greece, but most of the comments below Prof Mark Mazower's brief words on Youtube (rather than his 600 page book called 'The Greek Revolution' for which among other credits he was awarded honorary Greek citizenship) remind me not to risk raising this subject at table, lest I spoil a happy meal with friends. That's rubbish, by the way, I've had many wonderful debates on this subject over drinks and food with Greek friends!

[RealBonnieBlue]

The logic that a unified people, united by thousands of years of common history, a common language, common religion, common borders, common struggles, and common enemies and aggressors, can't have a War of Independence because there was no unified nation before, is ludicrous. This man is looking for ways to detract from this important day by mincing and slicing words.

[RealBonnieBlue]

The words "Revolution: and "Epanastasi" are two different words. As Mazower claims to be an academic on the period of Greek history he should know but does not, that EP ANASTASI means RE-BIRTH. "Revolution" simply means change. Mazower says Greeks use the word revolution in Greece. THEY DONT. they use the word REBIRTH.. "EP ANASTASI", hence the war of independence.

[annakonstantopouloy]

Ζήτω η Ελληνική Επανάσταση!!!! Ζήτω η Ορθοδοξία μας!!!! Ζήτω η Ελλάδα μας το φώς του κόσμου ❤️🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

[alexisgateley]

A historian must be very precise in the words used. Printing presses were not unknown to the Greeks, they had opened and operated printing houses in Venice and elsewhere, printing works in Greek hundreds of years prior to 1821. It was prohibited for them to use printing presses in the Ottoman empire territory, this is the key fact not mentioned. He very often uses the wrong wording creating false impressions to readers, i.e. he mentions that the population of Thessaloniki did not have many Greeks, they were a minority, but then he does not mention the massacres and barbaric persecution against the Greek population of the city by the Turks in 1821 which led to the steep decline in their numbers..half truths are not truths..

[alexanderkarayannis]

Regardless of what it is called, it merely brought about the creation of the little kingdom of Greece...Civil War followed, with disunity and foreign domination that continues to this day...Not to mention the obscene borrowing, the consequences of which are tormenting us to this day as well, and our eternal Capital was never liberated...So, yes it was a "Revolution", yes that Ottoman rule was overthrown for at least a part of the country as we know it today, but...the liberation this "War of Independence" was about, never really came...

[arbenl]

It was an Albanian and not a Greek revolution. History should not be falsified...against the wishes of the Philhellenes of the 19th century.

[pelopidasalexis]

EPANASTASI meant nothing at all?!?! What is this guy talking about??? EP-ANASTASI = REBIRTH !!! It was a revolution AND a war of independence.
Shame on this guy trying to diminish and conseal certain facts like the typography was already well known in Greece but suppressed by the Ottomans!!

[PetrosGavriel]

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