INTP vs INTJ: How Each Type Avoids Getting Into Action (INTx Insights)

In this video Antonia & Joel talk about how INTPs and INTJs each have unique strategies to avoid getting into action.

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[kenchege]

I spend almost every day genuinely believing that I have no energy, so I barely do activities that I don't have to do. That changes at night, when everyone else is tired but I have energy to burn.

[pouryaes]

As an INTJ, procrastinating for me is exactly like you described, I research and look at my project at many different angles before implementation, that sometimes is my best tool but sometimes it results in no action at all. Another scenario is that there must be something external happen to make the big picture in my head resolved, and I "wait" for that thing to happen before getting into action, which unfortunately is another form of procrastinating. (I could have done something in the meantime but I refused, that is procrastinating)

[nachannachle]

You have a good point for INTJs.
Although they have issues with things that "don't make sense", theirs is more about rejecting "inefficient, redundant" processes.
Usually, they end up taking action to correct these faulty processes.
INTJs are only out of action long enough for the time it takes them to take action...unless they have doubts about their performance for emotional reasons (i.e depression, low self-esteem, trauma).

[heedmywarning]

As an INTJ people are always telling me to get out of my comfort zone and do x, y, and z. Then, I ask them to get out of their comfort zone and learn to code, plan on controlling their debt to income ratio, or make a 529 plan for their kids. Oddly, they look at me with a "why the f*ck would I do that" face.

Therefore the true objective isn't to "help me grow" but rather to make me more like them so that they feel more comfortable. ie. "there is something wrong with you (the INTJ) and not me".

Another question I ask them is "what are your flaws and weaknesses". 95% of people shut down with this question and avoid self refection. It appears EVERYONE has a comfort zone that they need to get out of, whether it involves doing 'exciting' things in the real world or mental tasks.

[karatefox]

INTJ here. This is spot on. I need to identify a reason to take action. If there's somebody willing and capable of making intelligent decisions, I have no qualms with letting them take the lead.

[stevelovell]

Thanks for another great video for INTx's. Seems very accurate and targeted for our types.
I find, as an INTP, that being inspired and/or having clarity about what to do is the key to getting into action. I can muster the energy to do some things, but the WHY needs to be there. I think Antonia mentioned in a podcast about clarity being important for her as well, as an ENTP. Introverted Thinking can develop clarity, but Ti + Ne can so easily blow it apart with the absurdity of it all.

[csm]

I (INTP) decided to get out of my comfort zone and set the goal to finish a full distance triathlon. I learned all about the gear I will need, about efficient running form, cadence, heart rates, training programs, base endurance, swimming form in pools and open water and much more. I watched dozens if not more than hundred videos about triathlon preparation. The more I learn about it, the more it feels like I already completed one myself.

I know this is a danger that comes with my personality type. I despise making a training plan and stick to it. However, I do train and I am now able to run 16km or cycle 100km. And I did this without getting the best gear yet. It bothers me a lot to do this without getting all the data I would love to have that comes from sports watches or with the gear that would save me a lot of energy. Getting into action is really really hard when you think you can do all of this theoretically. Try to shut down your brain for a minute, that's enough to pick up the phone and dial a number or get into your running gear and outside. Force yourself into action, it's fun when you are in it.

[SomeKindaHero]

Funny story as an INTP gamer.
I played this video game with my friends that I really liked back in high school and got really obsessed with it. A sequel came out in Japan but not in English and I was too impatient to wait so I got a Japanese copy and have spent over 200 hours trying to beat the main campaign. The game features a lot of customizable parts for your weapons with different stats and skills attached. I've been testing and basically learning/memorizing Japanese kanji just to play a little video game on my PSP and I find it oh so appealing everytime I finish hunting a monster. Truly a splendid feeling to not be able to fully comprehend what the game wants of you but still managing to tough it out.
Exploration is something that can keep me either hyper focused or on multiple subjects at once. I love it

[LexaLite]

This gave me a good chuckle, you are right about INTPs and motivation. My mother made a remark about how growing up I would never do anything I wasn't motivated to do.

[Ph.C]

You two are by FAR my favorite analysts when it comes to MBTI. Your evaluation is just so... Accurate.

[greeppl]

You guys are doing great job, amazing channel
I have a feeling that what prevents me from taking action is the fact that
1)I want to know it all before I do anything / checking multiple sources & over analysing
2) Action itself, even though might be simple, is just less appealing than the theory & learning more
3) I am not persistent & it's hard for me to continue to perform the same type of activity regularly for an extended period of time if I don't see an immediate result (e.g. changing a habit)
4) There are are 100s of other ideas in my head(far too many) & I'm jumping from 1 to another, I guess not truly prioritising, which make me get excited about something & then losing interest over something else...

[kathleenshedaker]

INTP listening, I wasn't going to add a comment because it seems redundant, but I'm trying to be more outward with my thoughts even if it is online. So far listening to you guys has been very much processing all of your information to my current and past self. Also listening to maybe hear something that you guys say about INTP's that I can't relate to, which hasn't happened yet.

A maybe non-redundant comment just came to mind ha. Have you guys heard of NVC (nonviolent communication)? I first learned of this in a brief one-day class I took when I was 16 years old. I took a huge interest in it, and looking back now after processing some of your information on INTP's I can see it intrigued me so much because it explained cleanly on how to communicate emotions, needs, and wants in a very organized systematic way. And now I understand probably why so many people around me I tried to introduce this concept to were not very interested in the process haha. Anyway I think it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on NVC. I still try to use this system sometimes when I'm in an INTP hissy fit if I can get a small moment of clarity.

Anyway thank you guys I'm very grateful for your work.

[tesswinker]

INTP here. My motivation is similar to reluctant cat on a leash. Good luck getting me to move.

[pwells]

Oh dear. I pretty much always pop out as INTP. This vid has been super helpful. It looks like I have the motivation issues of the P with the desire for accuracy of a J! There is absolutely no hope for me 🤪! But thanks for the info. I think...

[waedddd]

Appreciate you guysss!! Love the channel!!

[claudiamanta]

What you say makes sense…from your perspective which I understand and respect.
No ‘must’s and ‘should’s will make me do it if I have decided that I will not do it.
After A LOT of deliberation I have reached the conclusion that it would not work and it does not make any sense to even waste my time on it. No loss there. After all, the world is full of intelligent and competent extroverts. I’m sure one or more of them will come up with something maybe even better than my idea. No, I am not lacking confidence and I don’t fear failure (people really need to stop saying that; it’s very irritating). It’s just that I DO NOT WANT TO do it. And that’s that.

[Sufi_Alchemy]

Relate to it a lot as intj. I'll give a very recent example: In a leading role, I had to recently provide very negative feedback to a coworker. The person was infj and took it extremely hard. So do I. It drained me so badly, I couldn't sleep well for many days. And I'm taking in it sort-of like my fault, because I should have planned and prepared well enough so that the situation didn't arise in the first place. So I'm all over the internet studying INFJ:s, trying to prevent these kinds of things from happening, because it tears me down emotionally and energetically.

Also, this is the main difference between ENTJ:s and INTJ:s (that I've noticed in my life). ENTJ:s such as a coworker to me is much more willing to take on risk and jumping into things without thinking, because when problems arise, they solve them quickly and efficiently and they don't put too much emotion into it so it doesn't drain them. Not so for me. So I plan and plan and plan, to create the perfect plan to conserve my energy.

[HarashiKalou]

03:30 it could also be mentioned that Si kinda likes to bask in the stability of its current situation; it sees the absence of change as stability, something valuable that should be kept, which isn't always the case. On the other hand Se makes it easier for INTJs to interact with the physical world.
This would in part explain why INTPs tend to write more and act less than INTJs.
applies to INFPs who write more (about love, emotions, friendship, etc) and socialize less than INFJs, because they also respectively have Si and Se.

[Severienne]

INTP married to INTJ. We don't get out a lot. ; \

[Fendy]

Great commentary - you guys really know your stuff! - from INTJ; I also get the doing stuff/research thing happening ... so much done, so much more to keep doing ... so time consuming ...