He Built a No Code SaaS Over $1M / Year, Here’s How...

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If you're considering building a no-code solution for your business, you won't want to miss this insightful interview! Join Chad Sakonchick, the visionary founder of Better Legal, as he shares the remarkable journey of achieving over $1,000,000 in Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) with a no-code SaaS platform.

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This is some of the best and pragmatic advice I’ve heard and I’ve been in IT for 20+ years. I love all the brogrammer comments about how code is still better. Code is fine when you can focus your team and avoid shiny object syndrome. That might happen on 1 out of 100 teams. Everyone always wants to resume build, not product build.

ImJustTerri
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Saying that using Bubble is comparable to large companies using Salesforce is a wild statement

marshallcapps
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I was sceptical about using Bubble because of vendor lock-in but looking at the sprints we do at work, so much time is wasted just bumping spring boot and other libraries due to security scans finding some obscure vulnerabilities in them. Not a bad idea to leave that to some platform to solve and focus on the actual product more.

nilxnull
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I love the content of this channel, no long intro what so ever and straight to the point. LOVE IT and THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

abs
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Like everyone else here, I immediately sensed that he had a problem with his technical cofounder or some of his engineering staff. Suspicion confirmed. Honestly for what he's doing, the no code stack is probably good enough.

fyfoh
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At 4:50 he mentioned butting heads with the frontend development team. This feels like a business/management problem - developers should be working on the things the business requires. Developers will always want to try out the new shiny, but the business paying their wages dictates what they work on. Glad it's worked for these guys so far.

justbob
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His experience with front end developers is spot on. I've learned front end just because of this. More people who code for business should have past business experience.

emerson-sheaapril
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As someone who has worked witha lot of Saas. Their technical leadership was definitely at fault. Also, their startup doesn't sound very technically challenging maybe that's why No Code worked for them. The end comparison between no code and salesforce is super weird. IMO

meet_sid
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Finally someone on here who knows the power of bubble

atomparish
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This works because there are still man made operations. A full fledged SaaS with only code being the deliverable (say a fitness app) would have way more problems using no code due to customizations and deep specifications. Nocode is on the right direction though and is great

stefanomartell
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everyone who remembers Dreamweaver wysiwyg deserves 6-number ARR SaaS

LB
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Well, their business is primarily non-tech and for most non-tech businesses I think we can make the case that No code is now the better approach. Coding only makes sense when you have incredibly complex product with a lot of use cases and tech-intensive features. I see a lot more No code businesses becoming hugely successful in the future. But let's say if there's a social media built on code and a social media built on no-code I'd always bet on the code one because it'll be more optimized and the developers will have the freedom to not be limited by a no code platform.

hasaan_ahmed
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Solid interview. Concise answers, organized questions. Glad this become a 1 hour podcast.

AeoJx
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Memorable interview. Everything about this discussion feels rock solid.

peterweicker
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This video is awesome, may I ask what's the app used for recording this remote video? thanks!

TwoSetAI
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As an experienced software architect myself - your problem was not code vs no code. I heard a hint around 4:50 of the management issues. This was 100% an issue with talent, management and motivation of talent and technical vision/leadership. I’d be curious to know how much platform risk you have or leverage bubble has to increase your pricing one day because you can’t possibly move to another provider without incurring another full re-write.

BensTechLab
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Vendor lockin with nocode is bit uncomfortable …. Also not a “one size fits all, but can work in certain scenarios I guess 👍

xpidxb
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hasaan_ahmed
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Devs dont wanna hear this but - The buyer at a business doesnt give a fuck if ur backend is in golang, he/she just wants software that works. If its bubble or the newest version of react, it doesnt matter as long as it solves his/her problem.

hustlin_heev
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if it took 5 years to build that thing with custom code, there is something seriously wrong with whoever was in charge of writing that custom code / project. Kudos to Chad for achieving success and glad No Code worked well for him.

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