The BEAUTY of Catholicism w/ Michael Knowles

Michael Knowles explains the important role respectful liturgy had in his conversion to the Catholic faith, and how the Novus Ordo brought with it a flood of unfortunate liturgical abuses.

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[rachelrenee]

As a Protestant I respect Catholics because growing up poor they fed us. ❤

[aborgeshonorato]

I can't wait to be baptized Catholic. Pray for me.🙏 Traditional Mass and Rosary are precious.

[nickihey]

Two favorite lines from this video!

“If you get rid of tradition, you inevitably create new ones.”

“Every space that you are in will either slightly elevate or slightly depress your spirits.” 8:03

[richarddunn]

the comments on architecture are so spot on. Finally someone articulated what I've been thinking for years

[commercialrealestatephilos]

Shia was spot on: most no masses feel like they’re trying to sell you something just like the Protestant rock concerts.

[southpawhammer]

I'm a recent revert, I started at a parish I thought was reverent. At least it was head and shoulders what I grew up in, now I found a reverent Novus ordo, which I love. And sometimes I drive down to the diocese of Detroit for the TLM mass and love that too.

[Patrick_]

I was lucky to find a Byzantine Catholic church near me. The liturgy felt... proper. It's reverent and highly participatory. I could never go back to a novus ordo after my first visit there.

[nathanmichelson]

I am an Orthodox catachumen, but I have tremendous respect for the two of you, and enjoyed listening to your conversation. Looking forward to watching the full episode.

[littlemissprickles]

Your point about the significance of history was mind-blowing.

[playfuldolly]

I personally like both NO and TLM masses. Both are different experiences and both are reverent to God. You don’t have to put one down in order to enjoy the other.

[SpiritofCatholic]

Traditionis custodes made me a Latin Mass advocate. It has opened my eyes to the shortcomings of the Bugnini Novus Ordo which I believe can be reformed. We seem to be seeing it happening with certain word changes and the more widespread use of incensing the alter, etc. I have emailed the AB and B about fixing the NO several times but have never received a response. I still go the Bugnini form but it’s difficult sometimes.

[kiryu-chan]

I love all Masses as long as I get the Eucharist. I love it from start to finish even if the Priest is from Mexico and doesn't speak English well and is trying to fill in for English Mass. Singing in Latin is perfect worship. I even have my Protestant sister listening to Latin chanting now. 😇

[bradleytarr]

The Liturgy at my local Parish is very Folk-ish, and Secular Self Help-ish, on Saturday Vigil. But very Reverent, Solemn, Sober, and Sacred, on Sunday Morning. Attendance at the Sunday Mass is about 4-5X more than the Saturday Mass. And the average age is about 30 years younger. And even the Homily is better on Sunday, even though it is delivered by the same Priest.

[carolkoh]

I grew up post-Vatican II and have only recently learned about the TLM and how different it is from what I am familiar with. While I begin to appreciate the arguments for TLM, I do dislike how some TLM Roman Catholics have taken to make fun of their fellow Novus Ordo Roman Catholics. You can state what you think is not proper but, like what another contributor mentioned, don't be elitist about it... and make fun of us. Granted, I have seen abuses of the liturgy where priests sing non-spiritual songs or invite performances that are not part of the liturgy but these are not the norm. And I do hope to attend a TLM one day.

[ChodyCheasley]

I need to look for a TLM. I have not experienced that yet. I am still a fairly recent convert.

[DanyTV]

Liturgical abuses happened too on Tridentine mass. I think we should focus on reverence in every rite we attend.

[JmenChristpas]

I’ll start to think that cigars are part of the catechism

[Schwaaaang]

I think more than anything, this conversation solidified my growing inability to head into any direction but architecture

[leechrec]

Tbh, Catholicism is incredibly practical for our modern life. It doesn't require or compel people to pray 5 times a day, to fast for such a long period, to wear particular clothing, doesn't prohibit eating certain foods, etc. It doesn't try to be so hardcore but it also is an open community that warmly receives and embraces those who want to be part of it. Some folks disparage Catholicism, but there's so much good that comes out of it.

[shannyyymae]

Gen Z here and I was born and raised Catholic. But the thing is we only have Novus Ordo here, which is why I haven't experienced any other rite. I don't really hate it tho just that its true that sometimes I do not really feel the reverence, which I think depends on the priest celebrating, most of the young priests that I've attended their masses, they do chant in latin some of the prayers, have beautiful homilies and I could say are *traditional, even tho its not a TLM they're celebrating.

I also started veiling since last year but yeah I do get stares and being talked about, my mom doesn't even fully support it. I don't mean to standout though (i know you guys know the reason for veiling) but I love veiling and I think it should be revived and imposed especially in the novus ordo mass.

Hopefully I could attend other rites in the future. At the end of the day we all should be one, its not the best time to be divided. We brothers and sisters of the Catholic Faith should reject this spirit of division.