Does 50 Years Make A Difference? || Vintage Fender Deluxe vs Reissue

Does 50 years really make a difference? In this video I shootout an original 1967 blackface Fender Deluxe Reverb vs a modern 2017 reissue Deluxe to see what difference 50 years has made.

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[Mooncalf]

Will you come back in 50 years and compare the 2017 with the 2067 Re-Issue?

[Dartheomus]

On the intro, the amount of reverb and volume were so different that they were not comparable. In the subsequent section, I'd side with the vintage based on settings, particularly for the driven tones. However, I don't really see the point in setting the two amps to their numerical equivalents for this type of comparison. Even though they are "airquotes" the same, we all know they aren't. Just dial one in to the best sound you can get, and then make adjustments to the other to match as closely as possible. Most people don't care if the two amps are the same if everything is set to 5. They want to know if they can get the vintage sound out of a new amp.

[franciscocedenolanza]

I prefer the '67 for overdrives and the '17 for clean sounds

[_leivo]

I would have tried both amps with the 67' speaker, then you would know if the amps are really different or not.

[vhollund]

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It is tricky because one is louder and louder usually sounds "better" to the ears

[drewbarries]

I really love that you mentioned the speaker being largely responsible for the difference. I want the same exact comparison but use the same speaker and tubes and same biasing then we’ll really know how much can be attributed to other components.

[canaanlawrence]

Honestly I really like the 2017 for cleans, but definitely preferred the 67’ for edge of breakup/overdriven tones. Of course my opinion is subject to change if I was sitting in the room with both the amps playing them. Great video as always Rhett. 👍

[jamesmolloy]

Great video, thanks!

A few points to consider before shelling out big bucks:

1. This '67 amp is "museum quality." It's easy to spend a lot of money on a vintage amp and then a lot more on repairs to make it reliable for gigging.
2. An attenuator will let you comfortably crank the reissue to a level that gives comparable break-up. I've had good luck with the small and inexpensive Bugera PS-1 Power Soak.
3. Turning the bass knob down and tweaking an EQ pedal helps with the over-bass issue.
4. Musicianship trumps tone. The extra grand can buy 40 lessons with a master, which may radically improve your sound and approachable repertoire.


Happy picking!

[timperry]

Wow, that overdriven sound is so bad on the 2017, compared to the vintage one

[mgtowmonk]

As a owner of a '63 delux reverb I knew which one it was as soon as it was played. My uncle gave me his first guitar (a fender music master)and the delux reverb amp when I was 10. I'm so fortunate and blessed he did. It gave me the opportunity to express myself through music. After 30 years of playing that amp, the sound was unmistakable to me.

[Barabyk]

20% tolerance components, and pot tapers... they could be as different as two amps built on the same day. Also, the speaker is a crucially important element.

[salopro]

30 seconds in. I want to say amp A is the '67

[DarthPreamp]

good video. the real difference shows when you turn it up. the distortion on the 67’ is a lot better than on the modern

[JungiOlympia]

Since the reverb on amp B is so much stronger it is very difficult to hear the actual sonic differences.

[jessi]

The amp from 1967 was A. I know this because my grandpa has that exact vintage amp, that he has played his 1959 stratocaster on for my whole life. I would know that sound anywhere.

[HeyLiem]

I choose amp B as being the superior sounding tube amp, it sounded like it was cleaner with more headroom compared to amp A.

[musicnphotos]

I believe the bigger difference is in the speakers. I have a reissue twin and when I replaced the speakers, it was a huge difference.

[BellTunnel]

I prefer A but I think you could get B very close by turning the reverb, treble, and volume down.

[RatterE]

I think a real test would have used an external speaker so that aging of the speaker didn't come into the mix.
BTW the 1967 is definitely worth it.