Why Everyone HATES Jungle & Support (It's NOT What You Think!)

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[MrLolguy]

As a Jungle and Supp main, it's a near constant battle against losing my mind

[thecaptainatlas]

As a jungle and support main, this is absolutely true. I’m grouped up with a bunch of randoms in Bronze/Silver and I can for sure say that some of the most important qualities to have are PATIENCE and ADAPTABILITY.

[BouncingTribbles]

As a jungle main I honor the support more often then not. Especially if they actually have a vision score and kill participation. I love honoring a 20 asisst support when their adc has 20 kills

[brianlegrand]

Top laner: constantly shoved to enemy turret and dies to 3 ganks

Top laner: "gg must be nice having a jungler"

[Mermzies]

Glad to have been doing this both in jg and support, I've learned to never expect to get even the bare minimum in solo queue, not even basic stuff like warding so I just play around what my teammates are trying to do along with their skill level while trying to make their plays more feasible. It also makes me less tilted because I barely expect anything, just pleasantly suprised when they're actually looking to set up plays lol

[VoidHeart]

This is why I like playing enchanters. I spend the whole game bailing my teammates out of their terrible decisions and they actually notice it because they see their healthbars drop, so they know they would've lost the fight on their own. My favorite part of League is when a teammate pings me and types "how am I still alive"

[pulsarhappy]

Honestly the hardest is for junglers, there's really only the adc that is going to blame you if he thinks you're playing poorly as a support.
While jungling, even though you can be in 6/0, your midlaner/top/adc can still spam ping you because he's been solo losing his lane. That is pretty insane how people find ways to believe that they are not inting on their own.

[RyutaShinohara]

Worse of maining support is that I get blamed for following my team's plan because I am not able to have a plan of own. If the team does a flawed plan to get dragon and it is successful, claps go to team, but if the plan fails even though I pinged and denied vision, it is somehow my fault.

[ciastkod]

As a supp main, I think most tilting thing on rankeds is haveing ADC that blame you for everything, even if you are in base

[Arthurixi]

As a Jungle/Support main, Imma say the truth. We hate CSing and this is a huge reason why we stick with these roles. There I said it lol

[KittyTheCockatoo]

As a bot main, I always honour and appreciate my support as, if I get fed, it is usually down to them. Whenever possible, I try to follow their play too as they are the ones who need to engage and can best judge when they are ready to do so.

[adcyuumi]

For everyone I've helped to climb the ladder, this has been my advice:

1 - If you see a play you want to make, ping ONCE; never more, you'll just annoy teammates. If teammates do not move to help with the play, abandon the play rather than try to force something that isn't there. You will die a lot less.

2 - When possible, let teammates call the plays. As soon as they ping, move to support their play. Even if you think the play is a bad idea, move to cooperate and find out by attempting the play. Either it works and you learn that, or it doesn't and your teammate learns that. But you both learn nothing if you ignore the ping, and now your teammate is irritated at you.

3 - When you are the ADC in lane, do NOT make plays. Your support will make the plays. They aren't busy farming. This means they will have a better sense of where the enemy jungler is than you do. And typically, your support has better tools to start an engagement than you. When you see your support make a play, you go in immediately to make the play work. Only if it's clear that your support is trying to force plays over and over do you stop backing their call. Let the support do their early game job, which is to win your team bot-lane.

4 - Pretend your jungler doesn't exist. If you NEED them to come to your lane, it's a bad lane for them to bother with. The jungler wants to help winning lanes steamroll the game, not save a lost lane. That doesn't mean that it's bad for a jungler to come to your lane... but it's up to them, not you, to decide if you are a lost cause or not. You can't expect/demand help.

5 - Never use the ? ping. It has no useful function other than irritating your own teammates - RIOT is an idiot to even have it in the game. Use literally any other ping, and use each ping for its intended purpose. If no ping exists for what you want to communicate, odds are you shouldn't say it. A less annoyed team will cooperate with you better.

[intuition_lol]

Yea that's the tilt. Having the sensation that u can't play your game, to get denied this right, and instead you have to play the game of your teammates. That u cant feel good but have to make THEM feel good, and whitout anyone acknowledging the skill and patience u needed to show

[cyberneticbutterfly]

We should observe what plan our teammates converge on and immediately back off if they aren't doing what we thought they were doing after all.
Also what we can do is place more wards to give our teammates the confidence to go for objectives.

[fragglerocker]

I had the exact situation that Kha' had twice in one game. Playing Ekko I got into the opponents botlane Tribush and pinging as many time as the game would possibly allow I pinged I was coming in. I stunned both champions as they tried to retreat around the mid lane mark, got the ADC to half life and then realized my ADC and support were just farming... Luckily I got out alive. So I come and do it again like 5 minutes later, same exact result. so I ask in chat "How many pings do I need to do to get you guys to react to anything I do for you?" and they replied "Learn to jungle." .... what? Learn to jungle, they were perfect ganks and you guys afk'd minion killing... how is that me being a bad jungler?

But like you say, people have to eat their own ego to admit they were wrong, which is especially tough in lower elo.

[andreitaker]

As a casual jungle player, the hardest part for me is when to choose who I should prioritize when all three lanes need you to win their matchup

Another is should you help the 0/4 teamate over the 4/0 one that can be the win condition, knowing that 0/4 teamate would end up dead once you leave him.

[cyberneticbutterfly]

More generally some people are just unable to overcome their emotions for an idea.
Anything bad happens in game just let it go.
Lux feeding mid deliberately 0-15? Mute her and let it go. Play to win anyway.
All teammates bashing her instead of muting her?
Mute them and let it go.
Play to win anyway.

[MT-jkof]

The biggest problem is that people never see small wins. Like tge first example with Ashe flash. Burning it is a small win and if you build up enough of those suddenly a big win situation will present itself because you have built up towards it.

[jstabile]

As a jungler, it's the rage from my own team, just throws off my rhythm and I might as well afk for all the good I'm gonna do. All the blessings none of the honors. I'm sure supports feel the same

[felixaubert]

I don't play support unless I'm forced to, but when I do this is exactly how I play. Tons of compliments and honors and whatnot. This mindset is 100% the right one to adopt.